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8. What it involves is getting the money out of the hands of the few
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 06:52 PM
Jan 2013

who control everything both here and abroad.

We can solve all the issues you have mentioned. Workers could have shorter work weeks and more leisure time. Population can be controlled - I see no reason for families to have 20 kids .. there could be incentives to keep families smaller. Climate change is very serious, but we could take steps to do no further damage and start remediation efforts. However, we will not do that as long as capitalism is the economic system.

It was an interesting sociological experiment in this country from the end of WWI to roughly 1980 (so about 50 years) in which there was an attempt to reapportion wealth to level the playing field a bit (much higher taxes on the top levels for example) - and it couldn't last because that was not enough for the capitalists. When greed is the motivator it takes over. So regulations were cut, jobs were outsourced, unions were broken ... and now here we are with the Walton family controlling more wealth than 40% of the rest of the country. Just think about how crazy that is ...

We've seen what happens when private enterprise competes with government entities. Take the post office for example - they are being deliberately run out of business. Soon Pitney Bowes will take over and that will be more decent jobs lost - replaced with low cost employees and likely robots down the road.

It probably is pie in the sky to think that this can be done peacefully, sure, but I think eventually people will have so little to lose that they won't care (and that's when revolutions occur).

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I Love You Two [View all] Left Turn Only Jan 2013 OP
It'll never work......... socialist_n_TN Jan 2013 #1
Never is a big word Left Turn Only Jan 2013 #3
Have you ever read John Rawls? white_wolf Jan 2013 #2
Hobbs view of humanity? Left Turn Only Jan 2013 #4
Hobbs view of humanity was the state of nature. white_wolf Jan 2013 #7
It won't work and that's not because of socialism. TBF Jan 2013 #5
I Only Wish Left Turn Only Jan 2013 #6
What it involves is getting the money out of the hands of the few TBF Jan 2013 #8
What's the post title mean? limpyhobbler Jan 2013 #9
Sorry for the ambiguity Left Turn Only Jan 2013 #10
We are at a phase where corporate power Starry Messenger Jan 2013 #11
I love my little aphorism about this....... socialist_n_TN Jan 2013 #12
Exactly! Starry Messenger Jan 2013 #13
1st step is saying that it can be done Left Turn Only Jan 2013 #14
Step one, IMO, for the US, is going to have to be to dismantle the power of the monopolies. Starry Messenger Jan 2013 #15
Total agreement! Left Turn Only Jan 2013 #16
I'm curious as to your age - TBF Jan 2013 #17
age Left Turn Only Jan 2013 #18
Isolationism - TBF Jan 2013 #19
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