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Catherina

(35,568 posts)
16. I have more faith than you do but you could be right
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 01:35 PM
Mar 2013

Only time will tell.

About those allegations, they're totally false.

If I had my preference, a Leftist Marxist theologist would have been chosen but that's about as unrealistic as expecting the US to allow a Marxist anywhere near Congress. He has respect from the Left and the Right. Several Liberation theologians have given him their open support via public endorsements and personally, I don't think the gulf between official Church positions and Liberation theology is that wide. The place where it's made to appear the widest is in the English press.

In March 1983, Cardinal Ratzinger (later Pope Benedict XVI) head of the Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF), made ten observations of Gutiérrez's theology, accusing Gutiérrez of politically interpreting the Bible in supporting temporal messianism, and stating that the predominance of orthopraxis over orthodoxy in his thought proved a Marxist influence. Ratzinger objected that the spiritual concept of the Church as "People of God" is transformed into a "Marxist myth." In liberation theology he declared, the "people is the antithesis of the hierarchy, the antithesis of all institutions, which are seen as oppressive powers. Ultimately anyone who participates in the class struggle is a member of the "people"; the "Church of the people" becomes the antagonist of the hierarchical Church."[24]

Cardinal Ratzinger did praise liberation theology in some respects, including its ideal of justice, its rejection of violence, and its stress on "the responsibility which Christians necessarily bear for the poor and oppressed."[25] He subsequently stated that no one could be neutral in the face of injustice, and referred to the "crimes" of colonialism and the "scandal" of the arms race. Nonetheless, media reports tended to assume that the condemnation of "liberation theology" meant a rejection of such attitudes and an endorsement of conservative politics

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_theology


I'm not sure what that article is referring to by "efforts for structural reform". Do they mean within the Church or politically? I took it to mean Church structure but I could be wrong.

Only time is going to tell on this one I think.

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If I'm reading this correctly, what he calls economic liberalism is what we call hedgehog Mar 2013 #1
Thanks. I think you're right Catherina Mar 2013 #2
I think he is in the same mold as the last few popes. Warren Stupidity Mar 2013 #7
I think he's pretty much from the same mold, especially on doctrinal issues Catherina Mar 2013 #9
I was reading it as Neoliberalism. Jackpine Radical Mar 2013 #6
In most of the world, "liberalism" economically speaking....... socialist_n_TN Mar 2013 #8
socialist_n_TN, I see parallels... TommyCelt Mar 2013 #12
CORRECTION TommyCelt Mar 2013 #13
Allegations about any collaboration have been dismissed as slander by Top HR officials Catherina Mar 2013 #15
the world's wealthiest organization could sell some assets to feed the poor...but won't nt msongs Mar 2013 #3
The world's wealthiest organization... TommyCelt Mar 2013 #14
the church hasn't sold assets? not what i hear. HiPointDem Mar 2013 #21
More: 'human rights are violated not only by terrorism... but also by unjust economic structures' Catherina Mar 2013 #4
Let's hope he will change Catholicism. JDPriestly Mar 2013 #5
I haven't read that book Catherina Mar 2013 #10
Respectfully I'm very skeptical on whether this Pope believes in real economic reforms. limpyhobbler Mar 2013 #11
I have more faith than you do but you could be right Catherina Mar 2013 #16
I took limpyhobbler Mar 2013 #17
Because of the preceding paragraph, I think you're right Catherina Mar 2013 #18
LOL ok I won't hold you to it. limpyhobbler Mar 2013 #19
Thank you. I appreciate that Catherina Mar 2013 #20
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