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In reply to the discussion: Did Marx underestimate the power of the middle class ? [View all]BOG PERSON
(2,916 posts)19. no
marx & engels understood that imperialism was creating a labor aristocracy in england, that the english working class could never be free as long as other nations were colonized by the english bourgeoisie and gave their full support to anticolonial struggles. marx & engels foresaw the era of monopoly capital, and after marx died engels predicted the 20th century world wars . their only error was they didnt predict the Marshall Plan
In the trusts, freedom of competition changes into its very opposite into monopoly; and the production without any definite plan of capitalistic society capitulates to the production upon a definite plan of the invading socialistic society. Certainly, this is so far still to the benefit and advantage of the capitalists. But, in this case, the exploitation is so palpable, that it must break down. No nation will put up with production conducted by trusts, with so barefaced an exploitation of the community by a small band of dividend-mongers.
In any case, with trusts or without, the official representative of capitalist society the state will ultimately have to undertake the direction of production. [4] This necessity for conversion into State property is felt first in the great institutions for intercourse and communication the post office, the telegraphs, the railways.
If the crises demonstrate the incapacity of the bourgeoisie for managing any longer modern productive forces, the transformation of the great establishments for production and distribution into joint-stock companies, trusts, and State property, show how unnecessary the bourgeoisie are for that purpose. All the social functions of the capitalist has no further social function than that of pocketing dividends, tearing off coupons, and gambling on the Stock Exchange, where the different capitalists despoil one another of their capital. At first, the capitalistic mode of production forces out the workers. Now, it forces out the capitalists, and reduces them, just as it reduced the workers, to the ranks of the surplus-population, although not immediately into those of the industrial reserve army.
But, the transformation either into joint-stock companies and trusts, or into State-ownership does not do away with the capitalistic nature of the productive forces. In the joint-stock companies and trusts, this is obvious. And the modern State, again, is only the organization that bourgeois society takes on in order to support the external conditions of the capitalist mode of production against the encroachments as well of the workers as of individual capitalists. The modern state, no matter what its form, is essentially a capitalist machine the state of the capitalists, the ideal personification of the total national capital. The more it proceeds to the taking over of productive forces, the more does it actually become the national capitalist, the more citizens does it exploit. The workers remain wage-workers proletarians. The capitalist relation is not done away with. It is, rather, brought to a head. But, brought to a head, it topples over. State-ownership of the productive forces is not the solution of the conflict, but concealed within it are the technical conditions that form the elements of that solution.
http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1880/soc-utop/ch03.htm
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So the middle class in some places may turn out to have been sort of temporary.
limpyhobbler
Aug 2013
#8
There's a lot of history behind ALL of these reform/revolution arguments....
socialist_n_TN
Aug 2013
#12
"at no point in history did new productive facilities actually change the mode of production"
BOG PERSON
Aug 2013
#20