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20. ((hugs)) white_wolf
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 10:39 PM
Feb 2012

I swing between wild hope and despair. I had a moment in Oakland last year, at the first port shut down in November. I came out of the BART station and heard all the drums and saw thousands of people and a huge banner that read "Death to Capitalism". I honestly never thought I would see this in my lifetime, and I felt that even just for a moment, things had taken a turn in history that will never quite go back to the way things were.

Watching the sun set with two veteran commies at the Port itself, even they felt it. We all looked over the crowd of tens of thousands and they said, this might really happen. We might see socialism in our lifetimes, in this country.

I don't put too much faith in elections to fix anything. Any change is going to come from people. There is a rising consciousness again that change needs to come from us. The best we can do is vote for people who are not actively worse for labor and keep hitting in that arena. I was talking to my partner about this just this morning, and he is frustrated with the defensive posture that labor is always in. I am too, but it might be an inevitable result of the death throes of capitalism, that these attacks get more pervasive and savage. We can only do what we can do.

It's hard not to feel depressed, especially when reading about the hard-hitting labor and leftist resistance in other countries. You get an urgent sense of wanting to scream, go faster! Get out there! Those of us with a knowledge of what is wrong have a need to get out there and help, and it feels like you're just watching things roll rapidly downhill. But I think the larger trend is towards progress in the US. I have to believe it, anyway. :/

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I often feel the way you do. The thing is people need to stick with the OWS I think they made Obama southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #1
This really has nothing to do with the bourgeoisie (middle class or what is left of it) - TBF Feb 2012 #5
We all must step back when we feel so helpless and breath some fresh air. That is a terrible southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #7
Sure, can't argue with that. But WhiteWolf isn't posting in the lounge TBF Feb 2012 #8
I hope he is feeling alittle better with some of the posters views. southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #10
I have my helpless, hopeless moments but Jackpine Radical Feb 2012 #2
Nope, not at all. TheWraith Feb 2012 #3
This ^ Wait Wut Feb 2012 #6
I think you and theWraith may be lost - TBF Feb 2012 #11
The door lacked a sign saying "social democrats keep out." TheWraith Feb 2012 #21
I can only take you at your word - TBF Feb 2012 #23
I apologize. Wait Wut Feb 2012 #24
I realized we don't have our group SOP up yet, we had talked TBF Feb 2012 #25
Same here Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #27
In some ways I feel frustrated, but not helpless TBF Feb 2012 #4
Focus on what you can directly see, feel, smell, taste and hear. WheelWalker Feb 2012 #9
+1 BrendaBrick Feb 2012 #12
Hear! Hear! snagglepuss Feb 2012 #13
Here is an article that might be helpful in going forward - TBF Feb 2012 #14
Rec for posing a good question. Smarmie Doofus Feb 2012 #15
i can't go into detail now, but........ socialist_n_TN Feb 2012 #16
No, you're not the only one. infidel dog Feb 2012 #17
Thanks so much for your words of wisdom - TBF Feb 2012 #18
A great post. Thank you. white_wolf Feb 2012 #19
Let me add a baritone to the choir on this one....... socialist_n_TN Feb 2012 #28
((hugs)) white_wolf Starry Messenger Feb 2012 #20
No. ellisonz Feb 2012 #22
Well you can look at it this way... sagetea Feb 2012 #26
Angry, certainly frustrated, and very concerned about the trajectory over the forseeable TheKentuckian Feb 2012 #29
Hey! Starry Messenger Feb 2012 #30
and it is always nice to see you as well TheKentuckian Feb 2012 #31
No. joshcryer Feb 2012 #32
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