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ShazzieB

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16. The issue here is not the nature of art or how realistic it should be.

Sun Jul 17, 2022, 10:25 PM

Jul 2022

Personally, I love a wide variety of art from very realistic to surrealistic to abstract. But that's not the issue here. This is about our little DU photo contests and whether we're all on the same page regarding how much image manipulation of our entries is acceptable , and what kinds.

It sounds like we're not on the same page right now. Or rather, some of us nay be on a particular page but not everyone is. I think we need to get on the same page, and one way to do that is to write some simple ground rules for the contests.

I am NOT the one to do this, as I don't have the necessary knowledge. Also, I am not and never have been a "serious" photographer. I'm just an old gal who likes to take pictures. I don't have any fancy equipment, and any image editing I do is automatically limited by the limited skills and tools available to me. But I think it needs to be done or at least considered.

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About Hello Kitty, the Eyes on You photo contest winner . . . [View all] AndyS Jul 2022 OP

Your Mileage May Vary wyn borkins Jul 2022 #1

+1 Ferrets are Cool Jul 2022 #4

I agree, in that, in my opinion at least, photo enhancing is fine when done to clean up Ocelot II Jul 2022 #5

I thought I cleaned up a flaw when I changed the grumpy cat look AndyS Jul 2022 #15

The problem I have is that cats are simply not able to smile like that. Ocelot II Jul 2022 #18

It depends on the application and the audience. AndyS Jul 2022 #29

I agree kcr Jul 2022 #41

This is reminiscent of the discussions dating back to the early days of photography. AndyS Jul 2022 #9

Thank You AndyS wyn borkins Jul 2022 #14

What I've gleaned from this so far is "I just don't want to know about it." AndyS Jul 2022 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author wyn borkins Jul 2022 #20

I had the same reactions to the same two elements. ShazzieB Jul 2022 #11

Why should I as a photographer be limited in the use of tools? AndyS Jul 2022 #13

It's not a question of what you should be allowed to do as a artist. ShazzieB Jul 2022 #24

I think the question is where we draw the line (if we want to draw one) between Ocelot II Jul 2022 #21

I like the unaltered picture much better. 3catwoman3 Jul 2022 #2

Actually I like the original better. Ocelot II Jul 2022 #3

The "smile" was a W.T.F. when I first saw it. 3Hotdogs Jul 2022 #6

So it's just a matter of degree? It's okay to mess with reality AndyS Jul 2022 #12

Oh I am disappointed to find out it was not real. applegrove Jul 2022 #7

Reminds me of a Picasso quote. AndyS Jul 2022 #10

The issue here is not the nature of art or how realistic it should be. ShazzieB Jul 2022 #16

This is the crux of why I started this thread. It IS the nature of art and the craft of image making AndyS Jul 2022 #22

I feel like you're replying to my posts without really absorbing what I'm saying. ShazzieB Jul 2022 #26

Shaz, I really do understand what you are saying and I've had a long time to consider AndyS Jul 2022 #28

I don't really have an opinion on this, either way. ShazzieB Jul 2022 #49

I wondered about this one. Right or wrong I don't know. Srkdqltr Jul 2022 #8

I also assume these photos are cleaned up and enhanced. ShazzieB Jul 2022 #17

I avoid contests. usonian Jul 2022 #23

I leave it to the folks who run the contest, but my own feeling is that this was not in the spirit JudyM Jul 2022 #25

Thank you! ShazzieB Jul 2022 #27

It seems that your view is in the majority and I can understand that view. AndyS Jul 2022 #30

I agree with you. Bluepinky Jul 2022 #31

That is what the criteria for your vote should be. AndyS Jul 2022 #32

Maybe the photos should be displayed in a "before and after" format. Bluepinky Jul 2022 #33

I whole heartedly disagree with your conclusion. AndyS Jul 2022 #34

"With paintings or drawings, you know it's an image as depicted by the artist" AndyS Jul 2022 #35

Ok Andy.. I learned two things from the post and not about the composition mitch96 Jul 2022 #36

So, the photo contest is a "photocreation" contest. BWdem4life Jul 2022 #37

I will cross post. AndyS Jul 2022 #38

The original kitty is much cuter. CrispyQ Jul 2022 #39

I repeat, if the image appeals to you that's a good thing. If not I've failed be it AndyS Jul 2022 #40

Sorry. I like the unaltered image much better kcr Jul 2022 #42

I voted for the bird. Mosby Jul 2022 #43

Reminds me of a college course I took dweller Jul 2022 #44

All digital images have full information about the image embedded along with all the AndyS Jul 2022 #45

Well said: "people should be able to believe that what they are seeing is real." JudyM Jul 2022 #46

I think we've got two separate issues to debate. AndyS is a very good, professional sinkingfeeling Jul 2022 #47

Considering that you have won as have any number of cell phone photographers AndyS Jul 2022 #50

Interesting question! Pobeka Jul 2022 #48

My honest two cents worth, (I came in second place). EDITED FOR THE ORIGINAL PHOTO Grumpy Old Guy Jul 2022 #51

For comparison, here are the rules used by "Outdoor Photography" magazine Grumpy Old Guy Jul 2022 #52

Loving this conversation! ManiacJoe Jul 2022 #53

and, here i just thought you had a goofy looking cat... Gato Moteado Jul 2022 #54