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Pobeka

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48. Interesting question!

Mon Jul 18, 2022, 05:56 PM

Jul 2022

I am all the time altering shadows and highlights. Anything Ansel Adams could've done in a darkroom seems fair game. And using a portion of the image with various sophisticated copy/paste algorithms to hide a distraction.

Turning the kitten lips upside down to make a smile I would say has crossed over a line into "photo shopping", by that I mean altering the main content of the image in a way that is no longer representative of the original.

In terms of DU contests -- my only rule would be -- do whatever you like, even combine different parts of different images. But the source images you use must be from images taken (or scans) that you are the original photographer. Have a ball. Fool me with cleverness, or amaze me with a simple photo taken at the right time and place. Ultimately if the image is entertaining, or intriguing, or beautiful, that's all I care about.

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About Hello Kitty, the Eyes on You photo contest winner . . . [View all] AndyS Jul 2022 OP

Your Mileage May Vary wyn borkins Jul 2022 #1

+1 Ferrets are Cool Jul 2022 #4

I agree, in that, in my opinion at least, photo enhancing is fine when done to clean up Ocelot II Jul 2022 #5

I thought I cleaned up a flaw when I changed the grumpy cat look AndyS Jul 2022 #15

The problem I have is that cats are simply not able to smile like that. Ocelot II Jul 2022 #18

It depends on the application and the audience. AndyS Jul 2022 #29

I agree kcr Jul 2022 #41

This is reminiscent of the discussions dating back to the early days of photography. AndyS Jul 2022 #9

Thank You AndyS wyn borkins Jul 2022 #14

What I've gleaned from this so far is "I just don't want to know about it." AndyS Jul 2022 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author wyn borkins Jul 2022 #20

I had the same reactions to the same two elements. ShazzieB Jul 2022 #11

Why should I as a photographer be limited in the use of tools? AndyS Jul 2022 #13

It's not a question of what you should be allowed to do as a artist. ShazzieB Jul 2022 #24

I think the question is where we draw the line (if we want to draw one) between Ocelot II Jul 2022 #21

I like the unaltered picture much better. 3catwoman3 Jul 2022 #2

Actually I like the original better. Ocelot II Jul 2022 #3

The "smile" was a W.T.F. when I first saw it. 3Hotdogs Jul 2022 #6

So it's just a matter of degree? It's okay to mess with reality AndyS Jul 2022 #12

Oh I am disappointed to find out it was not real. applegrove Jul 2022 #7

Reminds me of a Picasso quote. AndyS Jul 2022 #10

The issue here is not the nature of art or how realistic it should be. ShazzieB Jul 2022 #16

This is the crux of why I started this thread. It IS the nature of art and the craft of image making AndyS Jul 2022 #22

I feel like you're replying to my posts without really absorbing what I'm saying. ShazzieB Jul 2022 #26

Shaz, I really do understand what you are saying and I've had a long time to consider AndyS Jul 2022 #28

I don't really have an opinion on this, either way. ShazzieB Jul 2022 #49

I wondered about this one. Right or wrong I don't know. Srkdqltr Jul 2022 #8

I also assume these photos are cleaned up and enhanced. ShazzieB Jul 2022 #17

I avoid contests. usonian Jul 2022 #23

I leave it to the folks who run the contest, but my own feeling is that this was not in the spirit JudyM Jul 2022 #25

Thank you! ShazzieB Jul 2022 #27

It seems that your view is in the majority and I can understand that view. AndyS Jul 2022 #30

I agree with you. Bluepinky Jul 2022 #31

That is what the criteria for your vote should be. AndyS Jul 2022 #32

Maybe the photos should be displayed in a "before and after" format. Bluepinky Jul 2022 #33

I whole heartedly disagree with your conclusion. AndyS Jul 2022 #34

"With paintings or drawings, you know it's an image as depicted by the artist" AndyS Jul 2022 #35

Ok Andy.. I learned two things from the post and not about the composition mitch96 Jul 2022 #36

So, the photo contest is a "photocreation" contest. BWdem4life Jul 2022 #37

I will cross post. AndyS Jul 2022 #38

The original kitty is much cuter. CrispyQ Jul 2022 #39

I repeat, if the image appeals to you that's a good thing. If not I've failed be it AndyS Jul 2022 #40

Sorry. I like the unaltered image much better kcr Jul 2022 #42

I voted for the bird. Mosby Jul 2022 #43

Reminds me of a college course I took dweller Jul 2022 #44

All digital images have full information about the image embedded along with all the AndyS Jul 2022 #45

Well said: "people should be able to believe that what they are seeing is real." JudyM Jul 2022 #46

I think we've got two separate issues to debate. AndyS is a very good, professional sinkingfeeling Jul 2022 #47

Considering that you have won as have any number of cell phone photographers AndyS Jul 2022 #50

Interesting question! Pobeka Jul 2022 #48

My honest two cents worth, (I came in second place). EDITED FOR THE ORIGINAL PHOTO Grumpy Old Guy Jul 2022 #51

For comparison, here are the rules used by "Outdoor Photography" magazine Grumpy Old Guy Jul 2022 #52

Loving this conversation! ManiacJoe Jul 2022 #53

and, here i just thought you had a goofy looking cat... Gato Moteado Jul 2022 #54