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59. So I think you are reading it the way I am, it is ambiguous in that regard. This is going to be a

Tue Oct 9, 2018, 12:51 AM

Oct 2018

tough one David, and I am definitely going to have to do a lot more analysis on this

I think part of the problem with housing prices is foreign investment, at least in the bay area. Though I don't rent, I believe there is a shortage in the rental market, and from what I have observed a lot of people commute in from Tracy, Stockton, Lodi areas into the SF Bay area.

Unless one got in a long time ago, or you made a killing in the market, it takes at least a two incomce family to afford a House.

In the South Bay near the new apple campus, a two bedroom apartment in Cupertino goes for around 4K a month.

I have no idea what it would take to bring housing prices down, and precipitate a housing crash, because unfortunately I think that is the only thing that would do it. If that happened a lot of people would lose their homes

Anyway, appreciate your input

I have a lot more homework to do obviously

Thanks

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VOTE NO ON PROP 10, OR I COULD BE HOMELESS.... not kidding [View all] yuiyoshida Oct 2018 OP

I'll vote No. Iliyah Oct 2018 #1

The NO votes here are stupid. Prop 10 allows expansion of rent control CreekDog Oct 2018 #110

most props are bad in general so NO JuJuYoshida Oct 2018 #2

yuiyoshida, Polly Hennessey Oct 2018 #3

I'm voting yes because I think rent control should be an option. David__77 Oct 2018 #4

THANKS A FUCKING LOT... yuiyoshida Oct 2018 #7

no shit baby JuJuYoshida Oct 2018 #17

Please explain to these people.. yuiyoshida Oct 2018 #20

You have it backwards yuiyoshida FBaggins Oct 2018 #101

Prop 10 does not do this DBoon Oct 2018 #5

NO IT DOESN'T yuiyoshida Oct 2018 #8

You are wrong DBoon Oct 2018 #9

I WILL NOT live AS A HOMELESS PERSON yuiyoshida Oct 2018 #11

What you are posting has nothing to do with what Prop 10 says DBoon Oct 2018 #12

IF if passes I will be dead... yuiyoshida Oct 2018 #13

Please read the law. It allows stricter rent control by municipalities. Tiggeroshii Oct 2018 #14

omg... I WILL NOT LIVE LIKE THIS!!! yuiyoshida Oct 2018 #16

Actually the law that they want to repeal is the reason your landlady can raise the rent in the firs Tiggeroshii Oct 2018 #21

NO on prop 10! yuiyoshida Oct 2018 #26

There are crappy properties that are rent controlled and some that are not Tiggeroshii Oct 2018 #63

yuiyoshida, I reread the text on proposition 10. For those currently renting and under rent control still_one Oct 2018 #136

+1,000 !! CountAllVotes Oct 2018 #137

how do they determine the cost of rent for existing renters, it isn't clear to me. Thanks still_one Oct 2018 #50

Buildings built after 1980 cannot be rent controlled.. Tiggeroshii Oct 2018 #54

yup. I have reread the proposition. It expands rent control state wide, and people who currently still_one Oct 2018 #139

You are getting hysterical. Posting a bunch of pictures and saying you'd sooner kill yourself stopbush Oct 2018 #71

I WOULD SOONER KILL MYSELF THAN LIVE ON THE STREET yuiyoshida Oct 2018 #74

Except no one is saying you need to live on the street. Simple. stopbush Oct 2018 #76

Really?? and where the yuiyoshida Oct 2018 #78

We are on the verge of losing our home becauase of the endless rent hikes. Tiggeroshii Oct 2018 #80

DID YOU EVEN SEE THIS? yuiyoshida Oct 2018 #81

I dont think landlords care if i lose my home because i cannot afford rent Tiggeroshii Oct 2018 #86

Last I looked you have no right to expect to be able to live anywhere stopbush Oct 2018 #87

Stopbush. Prop 10 will make it easier to stay in expensive cities Tiggeroshii Oct 2018 #89

I agree. I am voting yes on Prop 10. stopbush Oct 2018 #93

Me too. Tiggeroshii Oct 2018 #94

This 5th generation San Franciscan left for the reasons you mention CountAllVotes Oct 2018 #132

Calm down and read the proposition California_Republic Oct 2018 #64

Don't you tell me to calm down, how dare you! yuiyoshida Oct 2018 #67

No she can't. Absolutely NOTHING will change for those under rent control still_one Oct 2018 #141

This message was self-deleted by its author Stargleamer Oct 2018 #6

So municipalities should not be allowed to pass stronger rent control laws? DBoon Oct 2018 #10

Because you are against rent control? Tiggeroshii Oct 2018 #22

Thank you... yuiyoshida Oct 2018 #39

The California Democratic Party is saying YES on Prop 10 shanti Oct 2018 #123

I am baffled by the responses to this issue DBoon Oct 2018 #15

I. WILL. NOT. LIVE. LIKE THIS. yuiyoshida Oct 2018 #18

+10,000 Tiggeroshii Oct 2018 #23

Then why are Gavin Newsom,an the NAACP, oppossed to it if it is so good for renters still_one Oct 2018 #38

This message was self-deleted by its author Tiggeroshii Oct 2018 #97

Local trade union associations are dominated by construction DBoon Oct 2018 #108

Actually I misstated, and need to edit my comment. Labor unions are for Proposition 10, and after I still_one Oct 2018 #134

Thank you! CountAllVotes Oct 2018 #135

Nothing will change for anyone who lives in an area currently under rent control. If someone is still_one Oct 2018 #138

Newsom says to vote YES not NO CountAllVotes Oct 2018 #133

It's pretty clear to me why the Democratic Party supports this. David__77 Oct 2018 #40

It baffles me too. Suddenly we are AGAINST rent control? Tiggeroshii Oct 2018 #75

you should be baffled, yuiyoshida wants rent control for herself but doesn't want it for anyone else CreekDog Oct 2018 #112

They don't understand it and are being misled by the NO on Proposition 10 ads and editorials. still_one Oct 2018 #142

nust be nice to live off the high hog David__77 JuJuYoshida Oct 2018 #19

Quite the opposite if prop 10 fails. Tiggeroshii Oct 2018 #24

NO ON PROP 10!!! yuiyoshida Oct 2018 #25

The last paragraph in your snippet is revealing. Tiggeroshii Oct 2018 #47

The Chronicle is a Republican paper. RandySF Oct 2018 #57

Hearst is loving this CountAllVotes Oct 2018 #125

Indeed! David__77 Oct 2018 #32

I support allowing rent control. David__77 Oct 2018 #36

You say there are rats in your apartment, but you refuse to research alternative places to live? cwydro Oct 2018 #100

or she can sick the Health Dept. on the landlord CountAllVotes Oct 2018 #145

Prop 10 does not allow a landlord to increase rent flamingdem Oct 2018 #27

READ THIS yuiyoshida Oct 2018 #28

This is the usual pro-growth argument. There is no room for growth in flamingdem Oct 2018 #44

I appreciate your input on this yuiyoshida. I haven't had time to read everything, and there still_one Oct 2018 #29

Thank you... yuiyoshida Oct 2018 #30

Labor isn't against 10. David__77 Oct 2018 #33

READ THIS yuiyoshida Oct 2018 #35

The Democratic Party and my local labor council supports it. David__77 Oct 2018 #37

ReAD POST #1 I have posted many NEWSPAPERS THAT SAY yuiyoshida Oct 2018 #41

I get that. The Democratic Party disagrees. David__77 Oct 2018 #42

I WANT FUCKING RENT CONTROL...i don't want my LANDLORD PUTTING ME OUT ON THE STREET yuiyoshida Oct 2018 #46

Sacramento cannot get rent control without this. David__77 Oct 2018 #51

RIGHT, YOU WANT *YOUR* RENT CONTROL, you don't want it for anyone else CreekDog Oct 2018 #113

First of all thank you for bringing this up. I am going to need to find out more about this. There still_one Oct 2018 #45

Thanks for the correction. I don't recall where I cam accross that. Let me ask you a question, still_one Oct 2018 #43

Well... David__77 Oct 2018 #49

So I think you are reading it the way I am, it is ambiguous in that regard. This is going to be a still_one Oct 2018 #59

Don't worry ... LenaBaby61 Oct 2018 #31

BLESS YOU... yuiyoshida Oct 2018 #34

Why? Tiggeroshii Oct 2018 #48

Your position is weird, you vote against rent control and pretend you're protecting CreekDog Oct 2018 #117

YES ON 10. I was virtually evicted becauae of the current laws. Tiggeroshii Oct 2018 #52

VOTE NO ON TEN!! yuiyoshida Oct 2018 #58

Yui, do you understand that the author here is arguing that RENT CONTROL IS BAD ... mr_lebowski Oct 2018 #104

Condo conversion is already an option for landlords RandySF Oct 2018 #53

Thank you. Incredible the level of fear mongering on the side of the no crowd. Tiggeroshii Oct 2018 #55

The San Francisco Tenants Union endorses 10 RandySF Oct 2018 #56

Yuiyoshida's arguments DonaldsRump Oct 2018 #60

BLESS You... yuiyoshida Oct 2018 #61

Much appreciation to you, Yuiyoshida DonaldsRump Oct 2018 #62

The law prop 10 repeals was signed by repug pete wilson. Tiggeroshii Oct 2018 #95

I was mobbed by three people outside of Ralph's and they all had the same prop to sign. BigmanPigman Oct 2018 #65

if you vote yes, and it passes.... yuiyoshida Oct 2018 #66

The CA Dem Party is saying to vote YES on Prop 10. stopbush Oct 2018 #68

PROP 10 FACTS yuiyoshida Oct 2018 #69

Why are you not providing the articles and opinions that support a YES vote on Prop 10 stopbush Oct 2018 #70

OH STOP, THE SAN FRANCISCO CHRONICLE IS NOT A RIGHT WING RAG yuiyoshida Oct 2018 #72

No, this is your stamping your feet and refusing to consider any alternative stopbush Oct 2018 #91

It doesn't even impact her ability to live in SF RandySF Oct 2018 #102

I agree jodymarie aimee Oct 2018 #129

Here's who is endorsing a YES vote on Prop 10: stopbush Oct 2018 #73

CAA warns that Prop 10 would cause exodus from rental market yuiyoshida Oct 2018 #77

The CA Apartment Association? Surely they're not worried that apartments stopbush Oct 2018 #82

VIDEO yuiyoshida Oct 2018 #84

You can post all the special interest crap you want. I'm not looking at it, stopbush Oct 2018 #88

Post removed Post removed Oct 2018 #90

I have alerted on this response as being abusive. stopbush Oct 2018 #92

+1 RandySF Oct 2018 #85

I'm confused SoCalNative Oct 2018 #151

Bingo! stopbush Oct 2018 #152

Who are the CAA? RandySF Oct 2018 #96

Seems like a certain someone is being woefully misled ... (nt) mr_lebowski Oct 2018 #107

the CAA is also a top donor to the Republican Party CreekDog Oct 2018 #147

that is bullshit, just stop it. you live in San Francisco, where there is rent control CreekDog Oct 2018 #115

That is a super impressive and credible list of groups and organizations supporting YES on Prop 10 Pachamama Oct 2018 #79

You are in the same boat I am Pachamama. What bothers me most about this proposition as I read it still_one Oct 2018 #98

i'm editing my post because you reconsidered your thoughts CreekDog Oct 2018 #116

I do understand it now. The good news is that it will expand rent control throughout California. still_one Oct 2018 #118

I much prefer your second post here on this, but there is still one more issue CreekDog Oct 2018 #119

These groups all have one sinister objective in common DBoon Oct 2018 #105

Is that the short list? BigmanPigman Oct 2018 #109

Your landlord cannot raise the rent more than the 1.6% allowed by the Rent Board for 2018 RandySF Oct 2018 #83

Thanks Randy, that was some of the specifics I was looking for. I am somewhat curious how that still_one Oct 2018 #99

I cited this is well in my post CountAllVotes Oct 2018 #126

OP has it exactly backwards doxyluv13 Oct 2018 #103

I know the history behind Costa Hawkins DBoon Oct 2018 #106

Exactly right. I'll be voting for Proposition 10 CreekDog Oct 2018 #114

Yuiyoshida wants to keep her rent controlled apartment while voting against rent control for others CreekDog Oct 2018 #111

Actually I think you are being too harsh dog. I think it is a lack of understanding. If the OP still_one Oct 2018 #120

i will dial that post back a bit CreekDog Oct 2018 #121

Last night I spent a lot of time reading the ballot, unfortunately as you have implied there is a still_one Oct 2018 #122

Thank you so much for that. Please spread the word about what it actually does now that you know ) Tiggeroshii Oct 2018 #128

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ still_one Oct 2018 #130

As a former renter in S.F. there was rent control already! CountAllVotes Oct 2018 #124

Excellent explanation!!! still_one Oct 2018 #143

You state you are disabled CountAllVotes Oct 2018 #127

VOTE YES ON PROPOSITION 10 OR I COULD TURN INTO A RHINOCEROS! Not kidding DBoon Oct 2018 #131

I am voting YES on 10, but I have to tell ya DBoon you are making it very tough because I really still_one Oct 2018 #140

We could use more rhinos (n/t) Retrograde Oct 2018 #144

PLEASE, listen to Yui. What she has posted is true. Tikki Oct 2018 #146

there can't be more rent control in California unless you vote FOR Prop. 10 CreekDog Oct 2018 #148

What part of renting our property below market do you not understand? Tikki Oct 2018 #149

voting against Prop. 10 makes you against rent control, it's very simple CreekDog Oct 2018 #153

+1,000 !! CountAllVotes Oct 2018 #150

Ah ya the main sponsor, a Mr. Weinstein, aka perhaps, Mr. Scheister Extraordinaire. miyazaki Oct 2018 #154