Allegheny County Recount Info: [View all]

[Mc Mike]

Last edited Sat Dec 3, 2016, 01:06 PM - Edit history (2)

Our area has not performed a recount. If they started one, they must have done it stealthily, without informing a recount petition affidavit filer like me. It's possible that they ran all the Master PEB carts through the central tabulator again, but that would not address the recount request's substance at all. And they haven't informed me they've planned, started, or completed a recanvass like that.

I talked to Allegheny County's Manager--Balloting and Returns Office yesterday, spoke to Michael there at 11:55 am. I asked him to take my e-mail and phone number so that I could get more quickly informed if a recount would occur, instead of getting informed via mail, as his boss told me he intended to do, because we're headed toward the deadline. Michael seemed to be sympathetic, and took my info. I asked what the delay was, and he told me the court case was keeping things on hold. We're a Dem area, so I would not expect they would be hostile to having an accurate recount, but they may not want to do the extra work. Who knows, though Michael got fired up (against tRump) when I talked to him about how lousy dRumf is, as a potential US "leader" and human being.

My mail was unusually late yesterday, I checked for it at 4 pm and it still hadn't arrived. At 5:40 pm I saw that I had a huge package from the gop lawyers Meyer Unkovic Scott (they've teamed up with Obermayer Rebmann Maxwell and Hippel's firm), containing a copy of every county precinct's notarized and signed affidavit page, along with the plaintiff filing from dRump lawyers to stop the recount. It told me I was "hearby notified to appear and be heard" in court, "the hearing will be held at 11:00 a.m., this Friday, December 2, 2016 before Joseph M. James".

So the gop team sent me a phone book sized notice, a full ream of paper, via priority mail on 11/30, instead of next-day mail. And I usually get mail before noon, but got this after 4 pm. I got this notice to appear 6+ hours after the listed time to appear, on the day of the hearing. I called Carl from the Greens at 5:50 pm, and he said that they had a lawyer in court for it, so I didn't void my petition to recount by not having appeared.

The Greens are in the loop about all info I have, and apparently there hasn't been a recount in Allegheny County. The gop is trying to run out the clock, and sleazily avoiding their legal obligations to inform people, while pretending that they're fulfilling those legal obligations. (Another post-er to this site, elias7, commented that since the repugs are pretending that there was voter fraud this election and millions of illegal voters voted against poor orange hitler, there's no reason for them to oppose the recounts so strongly, instead of demanding a nationwide recount. Their behavior is strange, doesn't seem to jine with their stated beliefs.)

The gop is still in court fighting the recounts in all 3 states today, I saw it on CBS's local affiliate today, during the 7:30 am news segment. If there's one thing the gop and dRumpf know how to do in government, it's hire lawyers and abuse the legal system.

Buried in the hundreds of pages of copied affidavit petitions is the notice that a voting machine recanvass for certain districts will occur Monday 12/5 at 10:00 am, room 601 County Office Building, 542 Forbes Ave. And there's a copy of the temporary restraining order from Judge James ordering 1) the recount to be suspended until the 12/2 hearing, and ordering 2) that the gop petitioners shall give due notice of the hearing and a copy of the gop petition (to stop the recount) to all the electors who filed for recount, by first class mail at least 2 days before the hearing, and shall proof (sic) of such notice before any appeal is sustained.

They just had to mail it 2 days before the hearing, we didn't have to receive it 2 days before the hearing, or even get it before the hearing was over, at all.

County Elections hasn't informed me about the 12/5 non-recount recanvass, but I'll try to horn in on it, pretend I thought the notice from the gopers meant I was supposed to show up to the recanvass, feign ignorance, etc.