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sybylla

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43. Kudos, Jim. I expect no less from teachers.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:57 AM
Jun 2012

I wasn't speaking of teachers when I spoke of considering using voter rolls when an administrator or principal is supposed to take seriously a complaint about how the school is run or how it spends its money from someone who never votes.

But you might be able to help me understand something else.

I'm very proud of my voting record. I vote every primary, general and recall election. Yes, in my neighborhood, there is a pod of conservative idiots who keep recalling our local electeds every time they do something they don't like.

Because I'm proud of that record, I have no problem with anyone sending out an e-mail to my neighbors telling them so. WTF difference does it make to my daily life? What will it change in what I do?

Now I also suspect those who never take the time to vote won't likely be able to muster enough energy or thought on this mailing to care. If they don't care to vote, why would they care if anyone knew about it. I know too many people who are too proud of not ever getting mixed up in "dirty" politics. They think, why vote? They're all bastards anyway.

And those in the middle, who vote sometimes, I suppose they might be the only ones dislike having their record spread around. They appear to care enough to vote, but just can't get to the polls consistently.

Few people know you cannot interact with the government without leaving a record. I can find out from the government how many cars my neighbors registered, whether they have a recreational vehicle and how many, if they bought hunting or fishing licences, etc.

Both political parties along with innumerable PAC's purchase the information contained in the voter rolls every year. They use them for all manner of outreach and campaign purposes. They also purchase the other data listed above.

In the case of voting, the absence of a record says as much as having a record.

Yet, there was no threat implicit or implied in the mailing we are discussing. It stated clearly its intent...that people vote when their friends and neighbors ask them to vote.

So here's where you can help me. Explain to me how knowing whether someone votes is a problem.

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We just got the same one. snacker Jun 2012 #1
Here's the text, this is beyond a little creepy it borders on intimidating HereSince1628 Jun 2012 #2
Re: Greater Wisconsin Committee... HereSince1628 Jun 2012 #3
They did an issue ad against Walker during the 2010 election. AllyCat Jun 2012 #37
This was mentioned on WPR this afternoon dragonlady Jun 2012 #42
Invasive arjaywis Jun 2012 #4
Welcome to DU, arjaywis. Skinner Jun 2012 #10
Website xoff Jun 2012 #5
Welcome to DU, xoff. Skinner Jun 2012 #11
To Xoff, one of the board members of Greater Wisconsin dragonlady Jun 2012 #12
I didn't like it either - too Big Brotherish Poiuyt Jun 2012 #6
My name is listed on the flyers sent in our neighborhood ms.helle Jun 2012 #7
are we SURE they're basically Democratic? colbey Jun 2012 #8
Please volunteer on Monday colbey. AllyCat Jun 2012 #38
From a discussion on FB PeaceNikki Jun 2012 #9
Concern about this topic JimZ Jun 2012 #13
I feel the same way, as a tool for GOTV, embarrassment is counter-productive. HereSince1628 Jun 2012 #18
Could this be one of the Republican dirty tricks? Others have asked this as well. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #26
The fact that anyone votes or does not vote has never been private information. sybylla Jun 2012 #33
Response to #33 JimZ Jun 2012 #39
Kudos, Jim. I expect no less from teachers. sybylla Jun 2012 #43
My wife received one. I was not listed on it for whatever reason. Ed Suspicious Jun 2012 #14
Are there different mailings? RJLange Jun 2012 #15
I think mine was specific for this block of homes, but I don't think it's from one database HereSince1628 Jun 2012 #19
Post removed Post removed Jun 2012 #16
What's your point? RJLange Jun 2012 #17
Information I did find. rolandgeorg Jun 2012 #20
One and only one name? If she is just a treasurer, this seems odd. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #25
I SMELL A KOCH!! bleaucheeseWI Jun 2012 #21
Check you garbage, there are some really bad things that smell like Koch. HereSince1628 Jun 2012 #22
true... it could be a dirty trick OKNancy Jun 2012 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author rolandgeorg Jun 2012 #24
In the interests of finding who is responsible for this.... rolandgeorg Jun 2012 #27
Very unreliable information ALASKAMOM Jun 2012 #28
Good post. Welcome to DU. Scuba Jun 2012 #29
contact information for this organization bellisimo Jun 2012 #30
Contact information for this organization rolandgeorg Jun 2012 #31
Its United Steelworkers. At least it looks like their logo to me. undeterred Jun 2012 #32
Well, that's the logo under the return address but it also says HereSince1628 Jun 2012 #34
True. undeterred Jun 2012 #35
OK, I found this in an MSNBC story, Greater Wisconsin got $900K from Dem Govs Association and $500K HereSince1628 Jun 2012 #36
Thanks for the research validating the group lam Jun 2012 #40
Welcome to DU, Iam. Skinner Jun 2012 #41
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