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mojowork_n

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35. That's the 64 bazillion dollar question, the extent to which
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 10:45 AM
Jun 2012

the bureaucratic machinery has been politicized. Who made the purchase recommendations
and who approved buying all those touchscreen voting machines? Are they compliant with the
GAB's guidelines (?) and/or requirements (?) for voting recording equipment?

Who was it that decided which voting machines would go where, and how many there would be per polling location. Is the information about equipment used, by county, at the GAB’s website really accurate and up-to-date?

Personally, I have some doubts that the Republicans big smoke-screen, the constant preoccupation about “who is entitled to step in to a voting booth,” hasn't maybe obscured an even more important question:


  • What safeguards are in place to prevent someone from walking in to the polling location and
    electronically "flipping" many, many recorded votes? All from a safe distance.


http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/09/30/researchers-hack-voting-machine-for-26/?test=latestnews

The electronic hacking tool consists of a $1.29 microprocessor and a circuit board that costs about $8. Together with the $15 remote control, which enabled the researchers to modify votes from up to a half-mile away, the whole hack runs about $26.

Two of the takeovers show the researchers controlling the buttons on the keypad despite what the "real" voter enters. But in what Warner called "probably the most relevant attack for vote tampering," the researchers were able to blank the e-voting machine's screen for a split-second after the "vote now" button was pressed. While the screen went dark, they remotely entered their own numbers into the DRE's keypad.

Johnston explained in the video: "When the voter hits the 'vote now' button to register his votes, we can blank the screen and then go back and vote differently and the voter will be unaware that this has happened."


Also -----> http://news.yahoo.com/researchers-hack-e-voting-machine-similar-2012-election-043305069.html


Not to say that there's any "proof" or even to suggest that we "believe" that this kind of vote theft ever occurred here, during last Tuesday's election, but has all the over-emphasis on protecting against a few individuals casting votes they shouldn’t be allowed to cast maybe taken away from any other attempts at oversight. Such as preventing dozens, hundreds, or thousands (or hundreds of thousands?) of votes from being switched? With the properly registered and legal voters who do cast legal ballots completely "unaware that this has happened."

If it would be like those magician's tricks where a distraction ("keep your eye on what the left hand is doing&quot helps the magician to pull off a sleight-of-hand trick with his "free" hand.

…….And on another subject, there's very little about the tabulation, or the vote-counting process, that inspires confidence.

The fact that we really know very little about the pertinent, operational details (would it be fair to say "next-to-nothing," if you consider the info that watchdogs and government departments have on the software programming (two ePROMs???), because it's all 'private and proprietary" -- that just begs the question, how politicized has the Wisconsin G.A.B. (Government Accountability Board) become?

Who was watching the watchers, and how involved in the process were political appointee's?

Why did someone feel it necessary to bring in the public relations experts for those “break-out sessions” with county clerks, to teach them to ‘take control’ of tough questions like they were all going to be interviewed on 60 Minutes?

What’s happened that’s made it less important to emphasize “transparency” in elections, and made “control” paramount?

The paragraph you cited in your post refers only to the 3,000 Command Central DRE touchscreen machines that were part of the “new lamps for old” swap of voting equipment with the county clerks in those 46 counties. Who are the programmers that were responsible for the code in all of the other voting machines that were used in the election? How many were there? How many computers (including Kathy Nickolaus’ world famous Windows 98 personal computer, that all Waukesha County votes are tabulated on (?) does it take to hold a state-wide election? Including optical scanning machines and also the computers that are used to assist clerks in tabulating paper ballots, in those counties that still have paper ballots, what kind of oversight exists? Have any of those folks ever had difficulties answering hypothetical questions online, about ethical behavior? Has anyone ever taken the time to ask? Those are all distinct and separate questions (or separate investigations) from looking in to the possibility that people were hacking votes from individual polling places, from up to half a mile away.

The bottom line seems pretty obvious. There are very good reasons that electronic voting has been abandoned in so many other countries. It just might be worth the time and trouble for people here to make an effort to see how safe and secure our own elections are, and whether or not the Republican drumbeat for “privatization,” in this case, has been penny-wise and bazillion dollar foolish.
Here's what I don't understand. CrispyQ Jun 2012 #1
There are MANY here in Wisconsin scratching our heads Greybnk48 Jun 2012 #2
To me it does not pass the smell test at all Botany Jun 2012 #3
I agree that it smells funny. Greybnk48 Jun 2012 #11
Big Money rigged the voting machines itsrigged Jul 2012 #50
I had not heard that.... Do you have a source or a link... On election day midnight Jun 2012 #4
There was a huge campaign based on this message. CrispyQ Jun 2012 #5
Pages of info. discussing this election are going missing.. midnight Jun 2012 #29
a guy in my office got that call mzteris Jun 2012 #9
I cant imagine that made much of a dent in the voter turnout (which was very high statewide) -nt eowyn_of_rohan Jun 2012 #40
I wouldn't overlook the possibility of election fraud... NorthCarolina Jun 2012 #13
Actually, look at the results, compare the votes for Barrett 2010 and 2012. L. Coyote Jun 2012 #14
Yes, of course, and mojowork_n Jun 2012 #17
Indeed, people will sit out recall elections, more on one side than the other L. Coyote Jun 2012 #19
Television Rules the Nation (Daft Punk) mojowork_n Jun 2012 #20
Do you have a link that says that? midnight Jun 2012 #30
Voter turnout was HUGE in most of the state - record high turnout in a number of areas eowyn_of_rohan Jun 2012 #41
Here's a link... mojowork_n Jun 2012 #45
Enron was a master of numbers too... Please post a link to where you got the numbers... midnight Jun 2012 #33
What, you think I'm posting false election results? ROFLMAO L. Coyote Jun 2012 #34
The request was for your source, whatever it was. mojowork_n Jun 2012 #46
Start with a flawed method L. Coyote Jun 2012 #48
Honestly, I really believe that dotymed Jun 2012 #6
Will there be a re-count? And what kind of checking did the DOJ supposedly do? dmosh42 Jun 2012 #7
good question. Maybe they were with the tea party thugs who were harrassing and intimidating vot eowyn_of_rohan Jun 2012 #42
That's a statement of belief, and belief looks for the confirmation it needs to be reified HereSince1628 Jun 2012 #8
Confirmational bias is something a person can mojowork_n Jun 2012 #21
Acting on the notion "If I can think it, then someone is doing it" was HereSince1628 Jun 2012 #24
It has been proven, dozens of times, that dotymed Jun 2012 #27
i have no time or patience for those who choose to remain willfully ignorant on this... eowyn_of_rohan Jun 2012 #43
There are two entirely separate questions involved. mojowork_n Jun 2012 #28
Nothing illogical about inspecting the source code because that is the evidence... midnight Jun 2012 #31
Thank you. sybylla Jun 2012 #37
a major problem we have are the clerks and pollworkers who continue to defend voting machines. eowyn_of_rohan Jun 2012 #44
Sorry. mojowork_n Jun 2012 #47
If the result was pre-determined, why spend so much cash on ads? Sirveri Jun 2012 #26
The whole claim that people voted for Walker because they were against the recall on principle drm604 Jun 2012 #10
EXCELLENT JOB, BRAD!!!! loudsue Jun 2012 #12
Just wondering SoutherDem Jun 2012 #15
Good questions. mojowork_n Jun 2012 #18
The recall election schedule is set by the Wisconsin constitution dragonlady Jun 2012 #23
Thanks for the answer SoutherDem Jun 2012 #25
Recall timeline determined by our constitution. sybylla Jun 2012 #38
The comments following the post bradblog video have a few more details mojowork_n Jun 2012 #16
This information only supports the fact that of all the tools used in this election nothing was more midnight Jun 2012 #32
That's the 64 bazillion dollar question, the extent to which mojowork_n Jun 2012 #35
PS mojowork_n Jun 2012 #36
Mojowork just saw this.... Thanks... I was aware of this before the election. midnight Jun 2012 #49
Two things: xfundy Jun 2012 #22
Like Microsoft? gregoire Jul 2012 #51
shocking fea5625252fe Jun 2012 #39
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