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sybylla

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38. Recall timeline determined by our constitution.
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 07:29 AM
Jun 2012

Recalls, when they were put into our constitution by the progressives in the early 1900's were intended to be a speedy remedy - just like someone charged with a crime gets a speedy trial.

Why Barrett? He wasn't chosen by the party, he was chosen in an open primary from a list of four possibilities. Could we have had a better choice come forward and put their name on the primary ballot? I believe there was at least one, but they didn't come forward. I partly blame that on the party. I don't think they did their homework very well when it came time to run test polling and recruiting the best candidate. But, when you're running against a 30:1 money disadvantage, WTF are your chances anyway? How many candidates who might have had a better chance saw this as a suicide mission?

Avoid a primary? That's not the Wisconsin/Progressive way. The people chose the candidate. In WI, we do not register to vote by party. The Dem Party is a dues-paying membership based organization - one in which few people actually are members (as a percentage of the voting population). To have the party come forward and make that choice would have been heavy-handed and turned even more people off to the recall. Those who worked to collect the signatures, those who made the recall happen, would have felt betrayed.

That long time Walker had to raise money and to campaign definitely put him at an advantage. But I cannot say the Dem Party and the unions didn't drop the ball here. Knocking doors and talking to voters confirmed the view expressed in exit polling that people didn't like the recall process itself or didn't believe it was warranted in this case. The party and the unions could have spent the last six months spending money on ads and mailers that would have persuaded voters otherwise. They didn't. They let Wanker define the process early and never made an effort to counter his BS.

Here's what I don't understand. CrispyQ Jun 2012 #1
There are MANY here in Wisconsin scratching our heads Greybnk48 Jun 2012 #2
To me it does not pass the smell test at all Botany Jun 2012 #3
I agree that it smells funny. Greybnk48 Jun 2012 #11
Big Money rigged the voting machines itsrigged Jul 2012 #50
I had not heard that.... Do you have a source or a link... On election day midnight Jun 2012 #4
There was a huge campaign based on this message. CrispyQ Jun 2012 #5
Pages of info. discussing this election are going missing.. midnight Jun 2012 #29
a guy in my office got that call mzteris Jun 2012 #9
I cant imagine that made much of a dent in the voter turnout (which was very high statewide) -nt eowyn_of_rohan Jun 2012 #40
I wouldn't overlook the possibility of election fraud... NorthCarolina Jun 2012 #13
Actually, look at the results, compare the votes for Barrett 2010 and 2012. L. Coyote Jun 2012 #14
Yes, of course, and mojowork_n Jun 2012 #17
Indeed, people will sit out recall elections, more on one side than the other L. Coyote Jun 2012 #19
Television Rules the Nation (Daft Punk) mojowork_n Jun 2012 #20
Do you have a link that says that? midnight Jun 2012 #30
Voter turnout was HUGE in most of the state - record high turnout in a number of areas eowyn_of_rohan Jun 2012 #41
Here's a link... mojowork_n Jun 2012 #45
Enron was a master of numbers too... Please post a link to where you got the numbers... midnight Jun 2012 #33
What, you think I'm posting false election results? ROFLMAO L. Coyote Jun 2012 #34
The request was for your source, whatever it was. mojowork_n Jun 2012 #46
Start with a flawed method L. Coyote Jun 2012 #48
Honestly, I really believe that dotymed Jun 2012 #6
Will there be a re-count? And what kind of checking did the DOJ supposedly do? dmosh42 Jun 2012 #7
good question. Maybe they were with the tea party thugs who were harrassing and intimidating vot eowyn_of_rohan Jun 2012 #42
That's a statement of belief, and belief looks for the confirmation it needs to be reified HereSince1628 Jun 2012 #8
Confirmational bias is something a person can mojowork_n Jun 2012 #21
Acting on the notion "If I can think it, then someone is doing it" was HereSince1628 Jun 2012 #24
It has been proven, dozens of times, that dotymed Jun 2012 #27
i have no time or patience for those who choose to remain willfully ignorant on this... eowyn_of_rohan Jun 2012 #43
There are two entirely separate questions involved. mojowork_n Jun 2012 #28
Nothing illogical about inspecting the source code because that is the evidence... midnight Jun 2012 #31
Thank you. sybylla Jun 2012 #37
a major problem we have are the clerks and pollworkers who continue to defend voting machines. eowyn_of_rohan Jun 2012 #44
Sorry. mojowork_n Jun 2012 #47
If the result was pre-determined, why spend so much cash on ads? Sirveri Jun 2012 #26
The whole claim that people voted for Walker because they were against the recall on principle drm604 Jun 2012 #10
EXCELLENT JOB, BRAD!!!! loudsue Jun 2012 #12
Just wondering SoutherDem Jun 2012 #15
Good questions. mojowork_n Jun 2012 #18
The recall election schedule is set by the Wisconsin constitution dragonlady Jun 2012 #23
Thanks for the answer SoutherDem Jun 2012 #25
Recall timeline determined by our constitution. sybylla Jun 2012 #38
The comments following the post bradblog video have a few more details mojowork_n Jun 2012 #16
This information only supports the fact that of all the tools used in this election nothing was more midnight Jun 2012 #32
That's the 64 bazillion dollar question, the extent to which mojowork_n Jun 2012 #35
PS mojowork_n Jun 2012 #36
Mojowork just saw this.... Thanks... I was aware of this before the election. midnight Jun 2012 #49
Two things: xfundy Jun 2012 #22
Like Microsoft? gregoire Jul 2012 #51
shocking fea5625252fe Jun 2012 #39
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