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25. Yes, it is to destroy the only evidence that could be compared to command centrals tally
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 12:51 PM
Jul 2012

But,
Even then, if the machine was rigged the paper taped roll could have been altered to match the rigged data stored on the memory cards... you need to view Bes "hacking democracy" documentary from start to finish... its over an hour... it is the full length that HBO aired a while back to understand how even the optic scanners as well as the touch screen machines can be rigged to miss-read the inputs and change a predetermined percentage of votes cast or optically read by a scanner to automatically adjust the reported or printed results to give a desired result and reflect the winner to of won by a pre determined percentage of the total votes cast...

I guess Bev Harris got some negative support and or attacks on what she was earlier trying to get across prior to the movie documentary HBO aired now on U-tube... I gave a link to it further up the thread.

I posted this in Places in MN and DM gave me a little history on Bev but now are giving support... must of seen her HBO full length movie now on u-tube that enabled them to consider taking it more seriously and that Bev Harris was right all along on the seriousness of these big corporate venders selling voting machines that they or others could at anytime rig to control elections... below is was my reply on that Minnesota thread.


Thanks for the info, I also read the reply post giving me some history on the subject, as I am new to this social media site and did not know that Bev Harris had been getting into arguments regarding probable attacks on what she posted...

After reading it I concluded that she might of been trying to get the word out to inform people of what she had been discovering by whatever means possible to try and educate the voter why these machines cannot be trusted. It is obvious that unless you have a lot of money, you are not going to get much air time on any of the major television stations and many people do not read the daily paper...

I guess the greatest risk to America is for its citizens to remain ignorant. I know the corruption is deep in the gaming industry... you see it in the bars with the illegal video pokers and 8 liners... In fact, I was a technician for a game operator that supplied some of the bars in Wisconsin and I know that they are being used just as they are in the casinos.

Those machines in the bars can have their percentage of payout changed anytime by the operator by just flipping a few dip switches say at anytime of servicing or collecting... they have meters that record the amount of money going into the machine and they meter how much was knocked off or redeemed.... sure they do not have any obvious hopper to spit back coins but they all have that option to have a hopper added... the way they first worked was they had a so called knock off button usually on the back side of the machine... when a patron was ready to cash in, they would motion the bar tender who would witness the amount they had won, note it and then push the button to clear it and then pay them...

Well, to make things easier, Many of the machines have been fitted with a printer and players just print a redemption ticket and give it to the bar tender to collect their winnings... some of them that are paranoid about others witnessing this transaction have set some rules... some of them tell them to come back later or the next day and the money "cash" is put in an envelope so that when they are given it in the presents of other customers that may not know what is going on have no idea that that envelope is a cash payment for what was won on the machine.

In Wisconsin Governor Doyle (before Scott Walker) was trying to get these banned and out of the bars to limit the expansion of gambling. He almost succeeded by threatening to have the police confiscate them as illegal contraband if the machines were not out of the bars in X number of days as was printed in the Wisconsin State Journal at the time... the machines were pulled out of the bars as they were several times before for periods of times due to other threats of enforcement due to complaints prior to the ones leading up to the last ditch effort by Doyle to ban them from the bars and what happened is this; The gaming industry WAMO got together with the tavern league and deceived and lied about the machine claiming it was not a gambling device since the machine itself did not spit out any money like the ones in the casinos with hoppers... they won the court battle government leaders bought it hook line and sinker and changed the law from a felony to a mist meaner and legalized the machine for bars with a limit of only 6 machines per bar as the number not to be exceeded.

The gambling still goes on in the bars and government looks the other way and the new mist meaner laws now on the books are not enforced.... the law being that if anyone is caught gambling on these machines where in payments are being made to them by the personnel at the bar that they would be hit with a $500 fine per occurrence and per machine yet not risk loosing their liquor license as the faced before the new law that was passed which enabled the machines to be placed back into the bars after having had to of been pulled from all the bars as by the order of Governor Doyle...

The funny thing is many of these machines have had printers added that print out a paper trail of redemptive payout tickets which get redeemed just like the ones in the casinos... that is, the casinos (many of them) have disabled the hoppers and they no longer spit out coins or tokens for redemption to cash... instead, they print out a ticket which gets redeemed by the cashier... The same thing is going on with the voting machines... venders have sold their shit to ignorant naive county officials for the counting of the votes so as to do them this big favor in lightening their load of having to periodically count the peoples paper ballots as they had been doing with no complaints right on up to the advent of the machine that can screw you was offered as an option to consider by those that wanted to make a lot of money selling us shit we did not need for as often as a count was needed that had been working for hundreds of years...

After getting rich of the sale of them, they became corrupt... surprise surprise surprise... now that the seeds had been planted as in like manner by Monsanto, the sickle is being sharpened for to gather the clusters of the vine to reap the harvest of what in the mine of the controllers at control central stand to gain in exchange for rigging elections form those big spenders who line their pockets with super pack dollars to legislate favors... even nowadays from the bench... the same ones that threatened Fox New what would happen if they did or did not air the Monsanto report as they themselves dictate it should be re-written...

Rupert Murdock couldn't risk loosing all those advertising dollars now could he.... that is why citizens united is supported by the major news media stations as they look forward not to election time as it means mega dollars in political ad snippets from supper packs so why should they object and the rent is made worse by the blind following the blind for it is the blind that elect the blind as to the truth of what is going on since these are the ones that don't give a rats ass as to who and how many shall suffer as a result of all the pigs feeding at the troth... anything else I might add at this time I've reserved the right to hold till as such time requires till a little action produces something further to act upon.

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Great, thanks for posting. Check out who's behind Wisconsin Wave... Scuba Jul 2012 #1
John Nichols, chknltl Jul 2012 #6
He is a journalist and lives in Madison and was helpful in speaking and writing about the unions and midnight Jul 2012 #9
Nickols also wrote this germain article: chknltl Jul 2012 #12
It's hard to believe, Nixon appears to be a liberal compared to these teabirchers.... midnight Jul 2012 #14
John Nichols will speak in Milwaukee on July 22 dragonlady Jul 2012 #15
Thanks a lot for the info. mojowork_n Jul 2012 #23
Great find scuba.... midnight Jul 2012 #10
more info itsrigged Jul 2012 #19
Thanks for adding and welcome to DU!!! Scuba Jul 2012 #21
you're welcome... this is a link to a documentry by Bev Harris... a must see it itsrigged Jul 2012 #22
Thank you so much for posting this.... Scuba Jul 2012 #24
Another effort supported by Liberty Tree Foundation dragonlady Jul 2012 #41
Thanks for adding that. The move to amend project looks promising. Scuba Jul 2012 #42
In this area the referendum was passed in West Allis dragonlady Jul 2012 #44
Anyone have a link Frosty1 Jul 2012 #2
Two items: chknltl Jul 2012 #4
Thanks Frosty1 Jul 2012 #7
this may be it: chknltl Jul 2012 #8
More info and links on the subject of voting machine fraud in Wisconsin... command central may have. itsrigged Jul 2012 #18
FACT: The GOP is controlled by liars, cheaters, and thieves Blue Owl Jul 2012 #3
We The People, thats who. chknltl Jul 2012 #5
Great post. Thanks. Scuba Jul 2012 #11
Thank you Scuba chknltl Jul 2012 #17
You may be right... itsrigged Jul 2012 #20
Getting rid of the voting machines and using simple electronics that cannot be rigged... itsrigged Jul 2012 #43
Isn't burning the ballots an admission of guilt? nt roody Jul 2012 #13
i am not clear on all the facts but... chknltl Jul 2012 #16
I had thought paper ballots needed to be available for.... mojowork_n Jul 2012 #26
BURNING THE EVIDENCE ON JULY 23rd? chknltl Jul 2012 #27
The letter to county clerks is brief. mojowork_n Jul 2012 #29
mojowork_n, can you come assist me? i have a thread going on this. chknltl Jul 2012 #31
I would.... mojowork_n Jul 2012 #32
Thanks chknltl Jul 2012 #34
Walker has the GAB in his back pocket itsrigged Jul 2012 #28
No, not even close. mojowork_n Jul 2012 #30
attn itsrigged: you know i suport you but mojo has it right! chknltl Jul 2012 #33
Yes, it is to destroy the only evidence that could be compared to command centrals tally itsrigged Jul 2012 #25
What if the election was primarily stolen through the touchscreen machines? eowyn_of_rohan Jul 2012 #36
What is WAVE collecting money for? eowyn_of_rohan Jul 2012 #35
I believe there are fees to be paid to the election officials dragonlady Jul 2012 #37
True, there are copying fees, usually 25 cents/page though you can take photographs eowyn_of_rohan Jul 2012 #38
Why not get a bunch of groups together... like the ones that gathered the signatures for the petitio itsrigged Jul 2012 #39
Regarding Mitt having something to squirm about, I think you will find these two revelations unique. itsrigged Jul 2012 #40
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