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applegrove

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2. He lost the election because the right wing in Alberta was so deSantis
Wed Nov 24, 2021, 08:55 PM
Nov 2021

like on Covid. They had a massive outbreak during the election. They had allowed recently diagnosed covid positive people too go out in public but there was such an outcry that Alberta rule got rescinded. That just highlights O'Toole's desire to have it both ways on a number of issues. During the election he was for testing people instead of vaccines being mandatory. He keeps speaking out of both sides of his mouth on things. These two things pissed off voters in the suburbs of Toronto who voted for Trudeau. It was a close election. Now Parliament has reconvened and again O'Toole is trying have it both ways 1) be seen as responsible to Canadians who like science and prudent covid protocols by following public health guidelines 2) back those who claim to be against Covid vaccines and status checks because they are almost libertarians or populists who are very vocal. This issue has dogged him in the election and now again he is Mr. Both Sides. Parliament is trying to hammer out protocols on Covid, O'Toole wants it both ways, one of his MPs just tested positive. There is a new libertarian/populist party in Canada that took 5% of the votes, all from O'Toole's Conservatives, and he therefore can't ignore them as they need libertarians/populists if they are going to win ever. Added to this is probably has a leadership review coming up within his party. Conservatives copy wedge issues from the right in the US, maybe because of the internet these days but the party always has. Then those wedge issues end up wedging them out of power in Canada. There is not enough cognitive dissonance in Canada to buy Mr. Both Sides. Liberals are scoring points.

https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal/2021/11/23/conservatives-formally-object-to-covid-19-vaccination-rules-on-parliament-hill.html

Can you break it down cilla4progress Nov 2021 #1
He lost the election because the right wing in Alberta was so deSantis applegrove Nov 2021 #2
I think that populists like Maxime Bernier try to look like libertarians when it suits them Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2021 #3
Right you are. I think the libertarians are the rich people in the world funding the populist applegrove Nov 2021 #6
Only faux libertarianism. No acceptance of liability or reality (science). Mostly White Privilege.nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2021 #9
Does libertarianism accept liability or reality? applegrove Nov 2021 #11
True libertarianism is rooted in liability and reality. They are few and far between. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2021 #12
I don't think free market capitalism is about liability. It is about massive applegrove Nov 2021 #13
That's the problem with unfettered capitalism that ignores liabilities, such as pollution. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2021 #15
Like cilla4progress Nov 2021 #4
No symbolism. Observe and you'll see flags drape that way when boiled down to simplest shape Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2021 #7
So, cilla4progress Nov 2021 #8
Blue Tories CONservative socially & fiscally. Red Tories are socially liberal, fiscally CONservative Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2021 #10
Actually the CONservative party in Canada would love to outlaw abortions, they started that Bev54 Nov 2021 #14
applegrove is right. O'Toole ran as a "pure blue Tory" for leadership but as purple Tory in election Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2021 #5
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