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T_i_B

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18. It appears that Corbyn & Co aren't exactly blameless in this regard either
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 04:29 AM
Jun 2016

If only Labour folk could stop fighting each other and start fighting the Tories and UKIP instead.

http://politics.co.uk/comment-analysis/2016/06/01/the-future-for-jeremy-corbyn-s-labour-party-looks-increasing

A new fly-on-the-wall documentary on Jeremy Corbyn's leadership gives a revealing insight into the mentality at the top of the Labour party.

Much of the programme is devoted to Corbyn and his closest advisers' complaints about left-leaning commentators and Labour MPs. The Guardian's Jonathan Freedland is described by Corbyn as "not a good guy," after writing an "utterly disgusting" piece criticising the Labour leader's attitude to antisemitism. The New Statesman's George Eaton is described by Corbyn's policy chief as "the worst judge of anything". Eaton's crime it turns out, was writing a positive review on one of Corbyn's PMQs performances. The BBC, which for years has been accused by those on the right of being part of some grand left-wing conspiracy, is derided by Corbyn as "obsessed" with trying to destroy him. Even Corbyn's own team doesn't escape censure, after his communications chief Seumas Milne accuses one of them of secretly leaking their meetings to the Tories.

Meanwhile the actions and words of their real opponents in the Conservative party barely gets a mention. When Iain Duncan Smith resigns over Osborne's budget, Corbyn's team writes him a speech designed to exploit the division within the government. Yet for some reason Corbyn chooses to excise almost all of the attacks, explaining that "it's not up to me [to say] the government's a mess".

The question of whose responsibility it is to say the government's a mess, if not the leader of the opposition, is left hanging in the air. Presumably it's for those same commentators and journalists Corbyn believes are in a conspiracy against him.

Winning elections didn't make me dislike Blair T_i_B May 2016 #1
I voted for Blair as Labour leader. Bad Dog May 2016 #2
If they go with that slogan, I might fly to the UK and campaign for Labour myself. n/t. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #6
It would set a nice precedent. Bad Dog Jun 2016 #8
Living in the North East, I heard Blair speak on numerous occasions before he was Leader ... non sociopath skin Jun 2016 #9
Neither Foot nor Kinnock made any impact on the electorate. Bad Dog Jun 2016 #10
It's not as though any Labour leader could have ousted Thatcher. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #13
Sounds like you don't want a Labour government of any complexion. Bad Dog Jun 2016 #15
I want a Labour government that doesn't treat Labour values as an embarrassment. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #19
I didn't vote for Corbyn. Bad Dog Jun 2016 #22
I'm glad you're willing to give Corbyn a chance now. And I don't TOTALLY disagree with you. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #23
I was prepared to give Corbyn a chance from the off. Bad Dog Jun 2016 #24
I have no sympathy for Blairism, but you may not realize quite how much damage Thatcherism did LeftishBrit Jun 2016 #20
Thatcher was horrific. Absolutely. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #21
Teflon Tony JawJaw May 2016 #3
Dangerous people, pacifist socialists. non sociopath skin May 2016 #4
No one's safe from not being killed by them. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #5
Labour never needed Blairism to win. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #7
Even without having the Murdoch press onside? Bad Dog Jun 2016 #11
Kinnock lost that election largely on personal unpopularity. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #12
I've not insisted on anything. Bad Dog Jun 2016 #14
Labour needs teamwork and competence to win T_i_B Jun 2016 #16
They do need teamwork and competence. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #17
It appears that Corbyn & Co aren't exactly blameless in this regard either T_i_B Jun 2016 #18
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