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Ken Burch

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Mon Jun 27, 2016, 09:24 PM Jun 2016

If Corbyn is dumped, why should anyone who cares about workers and the poor bother voting Labour? [View all]

The PLP is doing this because it doesn't want Labour to care about anything but "winning the election".

It's clear that the PLP will ONLY accept Angela Eagle or Tom Watson as a replacement, and both of them agree with the Tories on every major issue.

If Labour won with that sort of leader, it would be impossible for it to be different in power than the Tories are.

Neither is capable of trying to make life better for the poor (nothing can be done for the poor at all if Labour endorses the benefits cap).

Neither cares about people who work for a living(you can't care about workers and support Thatcher's anti-worker laws).

Neither will let it be possible to be an activist for change and stay in the party.

It simply couldn't be worth anything to elect a Labour government if Labour's leader is a right-winger.

Doing so means agreeing that Labour should have no passionate convictions on anything.

And it means losing the vote of every young person in the UK forever.

The fight to dump Corbyn is led by those who want Labour to finish Blair's project and leave Britain with two conservative parties.

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To preface this: I think the rebels are doing the wrong thing, and fiddling while Rome burns LeftishBrit Jun 2016 #1
Trying to understand what's going on. Matilda Jun 2016 #2
A tiny handful aren't, but the overwhelmingly majority are. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #3
It's a bit surreal. Matilda Jun 2016 #4
No, absolutely not. The rebels are about 70% of the PLP, from across the left wing of the spectrum. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2016 #8
If they succeed, there will be no left-of-center proposals in the next Labour manifesto. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #15
Is Corbyn a good leader? Dworkin Jun 2016 #5
I can see where the comparison to Foot could be made RogueTrooper Jun 2016 #20
And I think Corbyn and his team do understand television. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #21
Not particularly IMO; but then neither is anyone likely to replace him LeftishBrit Jul 2016 #22
There are many reasons why Labour imploded in Scotland. Denzil_DC Jun 2016 #6
Easy: because practically every word you've written is a black lie. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2016 #7
Dude, shrieking "Lie!" Denzil_DC Jun 2016 #9
A few points in response. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2016 #10
Ok, forgive the bluntness, but if he's a liar!!!!, you're a bullshitter. Denzil_DC Jun 2016 #11
Spot on about perception. Dworkin Jun 2016 #13
Blairism was nothing but Tory-lite. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #16
Corbyn wants to win the election just as much as you do. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #17
For some muppet shrieking "Lie" every paragraph, you certainly enjoy telling them ... (n/t) Nihil Jun 2016 #19
OK. It's war. Denzil_DC Jun 2016 #12
those numbers... Ironing Man Jun 2016 #14
Well ... Denzil_DC Jun 2016 #18
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