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T_i_B

(14,738 posts)
4. Wrong again
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 05:55 AM
Sep 2016

The Stronger In campaign did talk an awful lot about economic concerns. The trouble was that the campaign was done on superficial 90's soundbite terms rather than giving people the facts about how the EU single market works. That was a major failing.

And then there is the whole immigration issue, which trumped any economic concerns for a lot of voters. Especially so in poor white communities.

Cameron and Osborne need a lot of the blame for this fiasco, but Corbyn's weak, inept leadership was also a factor that swung it.

Oh, and The Canary is the left wing equivalent of Breitbart. Their stories are almost always badly researched, which leads to them being misleading (as in this case) or just wildly untrue (see the Portland Communications lies you spout). Their craven forelock tugging towards Corbyn has been a major factor in the creation of the Corbyn cult. What's worse is that the mainstream media is increasingly heading in the clickbait direction of sites like Breitbart and The Canary. Which means that when I want to read up on the issue that interests me the most right now I am turning to the LA Times over any UK rag.

The actual email is published below: Ken Burch Sep 2016 #1
So the Canary is distorting things? T_i_B Sep 2016 #2
Then it was Straw's son who was to blame for the Leave victory. Ken Burch Sep 2016 #3
Wrong again T_i_B Sep 2016 #4
I forgot another major gripe with "Stronger In"! T_i_B Sep 2016 #5
It's often the people at the top of any electoral effort who are the least responsive to feedback. Ken Burch Sep 2016 #7
Actually, much of my feedback was taken on board T_i_B Sep 2016 #9
There's no such thing as "the Corbyn cult". Ken Burch Sep 2016 #6
Actually, the Lib Dems are winning by elections round here.... T_i_B Sep 2016 #8
Momentum have had to fight a defensive campaign simply to keep Corbyn in the job Ken Burch Sep 2016 #10
No excuse for not looking beyond the leadership contest T_i_B Sep 2016 #11
Corbynites aren't doing party infighting. Ken Burch Sep 2016 #12
Telling more porkies about the problem won't fix anything T_i_B Sep 2016 #13
They have to devote themselves to keeping Jeremy as leader. Ken Burch Sep 2016 #14
Wriggle as you might on Straw's behalf and attempt to smear the messenger, Denzil_DC Sep 2016 #15
Looking at what's been happening local to me... T_i_B Sep 2016 #16
Well, for a start, Denzil_DC Sep 2016 #17
This is undeniably an issue T_i_B Sep 2016 #18
You keep saying, Denzil_DC Sep 2016 #19
Didn't realise Bristol was local to you! T_i_B Sep 2016 #20
In all seriousness though... T_i_B Sep 2016 #21
The new (more Corbyn-friendly) entry to the NEC don't take office till conference. Denzil_DC Sep 2016 #22
Trouble is, I can see the writing on the wall T_i_B Sep 2016 #23
Nope. Denzil_DC Sep 2016 #24
About the only chance Scottish Labour has of recovering anytime in the next two decades Ken Burch Sep 2016 #25
There are many reasons why Scottish Labour's in such a state. Denzil_DC Sep 2016 #26
The SNP's new membership RogueTrooper Sep 2016 #27
Chris McEleny, the only candidate from a local government background, Denzil_DC Sep 2016 #28
The SNP does vigorously police its new left wing brand RogueTrooper Sep 2016 #29
I wouldn't have voted for the SNP nationally Denzil_DC Sep 2016 #30
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