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muriel_volestrangler

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21. I think we need a bit of realism about the timeline here

Tue Jan 24, 2017, 09:32 AM

Jan 2017

The Windscale fire was in 1957; Jamie Reed was born in 1973; Thatcher was in power from 1979 to 1990. So neither was Thatcher responsible for covering up the Windscale fire (it was common knowledge in the 1980s - I can remember it was used in the Spitting Image programme right after Chernobyl, in which they assumed the viewers knew about it), nor was Reed working as a press officer during the Thatcher government.

You appear to be throwing things at the wall and hoping something sticks.

Also, geography: Sellafield is on the coast, and yes, employment there means nuclear power is still OK for that part of the constituency. Keswick is inland, in the middle of the north of the Lake District. Copeland Borough Council is controlled by Labour, and has pretty much always been; Keswick, added to the Westminster seat in 2010, has both Labour and Tory support

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Labour's Tristram Hunt quitting as MP to head V&A Museum [View all] T_i_B Jan 2017 OP

Is Hunt hoping to embarrass Corbyn by causing a by-election in which Labour loses ground? Ken Burch Jan 2017 #1

Hunt & Reed could hurt Corbyn more by staying on and fighting. T_i_B Jan 2017 #2

Well, you've got me a little confused here. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #4

Had he campaigned harder for Remain RogueTrooper Jan 2017 #7

In the case of Stoke... T_i_B Jan 2017 #8

Looks like the Tories are throwing in the anvil in Stoke RogueTrooper Jan 2017 #9

If Copeland's going to be lost under Corbyn, it would be lost under any leader. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #10

And when was the last time you were in Keswick? T_i_B Jan 2017 #11

Never claimed I had been. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #12

It's traditionally a safe Labour seat T_i_B Jan 2017 #14

Labour should be offering policies(Corbyn probably will)to retrain these people in non-lethal work. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #17

Danger can be averted. T_i_B Jan 2017 #18

I think we need a bit of realism about the timeline here muriel_volestrangler Jan 2017 #21

I stand corrected on chronology. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #23

Anti-Corbyn feeling seems to be the exact problem muriel_volestrangler Jan 2017 #25

As your link indicates, an anti-Corbyn (therefore presumably right-wing)candidate was selected. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #26

Yes, she was selected last Thursday evening, 24 hours before the Telegraph story was published muriel_volestrangler Jan 2017 #27

It should be noted that Labour held the seat in 1983 and 1987 Ken Burch Jan 2017 #28

Jamie Reed wasn't yet born when the Windscale fire took place, so he couldn't have helped to cover LeftishBrit Jan 2017 #22

Ok, Jamie didn't personally cover up Windscale. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #24

No; I think he is taking a good job that was offered to him LeftishBrit Jan 2017 #3

I think the proposed boundary chages have played their part. T_i_B Jan 2017 #5

You make it sound as if it would be intrinsically unjust to deny him a nomination. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #13

Wrong T_i_B Jan 2017 #15

If it's the Tories doing the boundary reductions, why bring "Corbyn loyalists" into it, then? Ken Burch Jan 2017 #16

Because Momentum are going to be very active in the selection process T_i_B Jan 2017 #19

Isn't it at least as legitimate for Momentum to try and get people it supports nominated... Ken Burch Jan 2017 #20

The seat is due to go with the boundary review RogueTrooper Jan 2017 #6