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Denzil_DC

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8. The problem's been growing in Scotland for some time, and Scottish Labour's not immune.
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 11:40 PM
Jun 2017
Orange Order elected to councils as Labour and Tory members

MEMBERS of the Orange Order have won council seats in the local elections by standing for the Labour and Tory parties, the Sunday Herald can reveal. The Orange Order has boasted that its elected councillors will work to derail a second independence referendum, the organisation’s Scottish leader said.

Grand Orange Lodge of Scotland Grand Master Jim McHarg said the organisation now wanted to stir the Unionist population against independence.

A “huge number” of Lodge supporters are Tories, McHarg said, as he praised Ruth Davidson for basing her council election campaign on opposition to a second referendum.

However, McHarg said most of the Protestant Order’s members are Labour supporters as he revealed the organisation’s attempt to extend its political influence. He said the majority of Orange Lodge members who had successfully been elected as councillors were Labour, but added that at least one Tory had also been voted in.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15270068.Orange_Order_elected_to_councils_as_Labour_and_Tory_members/

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I evidently lack the writing chops to be able to express just how cynical and useless Davidson and Dugdale are.

Davidson's approval ratings started to slide towards the end of the GE campaign despite the ridiculously easy ride the media give her, but the damage had been done by then. I haven't seen a recent poll, but not that long ago, for Dugdale it was more a case of "Kezia who ...?"

Labour and the Tories have also formed coalitions to lock the SNP out of council administrations in a few cases.
In case anyone's skeptical about an out-of-context interview quote, Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #1
Heh. Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #3
Not convincing enough? Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #2
Scottish Labour STILL hasn't learned from the mistake it made in the Indyref Ken Burch Jun 2017 #5
More evidence that Dugdale has to go. Ken Burch Jun 2017 #4
Davidson has been cosying up with the Scottish Orange Order for some time. Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #6
An alliance between Ruth and the Orange Order would involve some VERY delicate phraseology. Ken Burch Jun 2017 #7
The problem's been growing in Scotland for some time, and Scottish Labour's not immune. Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #8
A few more examples since I have the tabs open on my browser: Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #9
I'm not sure there's much appetite for replacing Dugdale T_i_B Jun 2017 #10
If they turn on her though, the government falls... Ken Burch Jun 2017 #11
I think Corbyn is pretty safe TBH T_i_B Jun 2017 #15
See, that's one of Scottish Labour's major problems right there. Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #12
Here's Ruth "Paper Tiger" Davidson Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #13
Actually, she exits stage RIGHT...as you'd expect a Tory(or Snagglepuss) to do. Ken Burch Jun 2017 #14
My mistake! n/t Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #16
It's all right...I've done theatre off and on for years. Ken Burch Jun 2017 #25
I did a bit in my youth, but sleep's been a bit short the last few days Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author Ken Burch Jun 2017 #23
The SNP got lucky - they won a lot of their seats with tiny majorities muriel_volestrangler Jun 2017 #17
ALL the parties got lucky, except when they didn't. Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #18
Yeah, but I'm not cherrypicking - that was all close seats (nt) muriel_volestrangler Jun 2017 #19
Yeah, but saying a certain party "got lucky" is a bit meaningless. Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #20
OK, to illustrate some of what I'm saying here, Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #21
A bit more analysis of some of the dynamics in Scotland (including my Argyll & Bute constituency) Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #22
Could you pm me that spreadsheet? Thanks. Ken Burch Jun 2017 #24
Lest anyone think this was purely post-poll petulance on my part, Denzil_DC Jul 2017 #27
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