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muriel_volestrangler

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Sat Sep 6, 2014, 04:17 PM Sep 2014

Scots to be offered radical new deal in bid to save the union [View all]

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The people of Scotland will be offered the chance to devise a federal future for their own country before next year's general election under radical plans aimed at derailing the surge towards full-blown independence.

Amid growing nervousness among unionists about the prospect of a yes vote on 18 September, an announcement is expected within days on plans to allow people from all parts of Scottish society to decide how to finish the job of devolving powers from London to Holyrood.

A senior government minister close to the Better Together campaign told the Observer: "Watch this space. You can expect something in the next few days." It is understood that there have been intensive cross-party talks in recent days to finalise the plans.

The senior minister made clear that the new Scottish conference or convention, to be established after a no vote, would involve all parts of Scottish society, not just politicians. It would aim to complete its work in time for the three main Westminster parties to commit to implementing its recommendations in the first Queen's speech of a new parliament. Alex Salmond's SNP would be invited to take part.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/06/scots-radical-new-deal-save-the-union

And Rupert Murdoch seems to be gloating over a poll about to come out showing "everything up for grabs", which he bizarrely thinks is a good opportunity for 'libertarians and far left'.

Update: poll, for the Sunday Times, shows Yes 51%, No 49%, among decided voters.
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I hope not, but that may well be too little too late. non sociopath skin Sep 2014 #1
Unnecessary panic from No. oldironside Sep 2014 #2
Panelbase is a similar form of polling muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #3
The polls later in the week... oldironside Sep 2014 #4
AV was a low turnout, though (42%) muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #5
But I've heard it argued ... oldironside Sep 2014 #6
TNS-BRMB - No leads by 1 point among 16+, tie for those certain to vote muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #12
Survation for the Daily Record... oldironside Sep 2014 #17
TNS - a face-to-face poll - went from an 8 point No lead to a tie muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #18
"No. The proof is the actual result." oldironside Sep 2014 #19
Arrogant? What did I write that was 'arrogant'? muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #20
late to this bluemarkers Sep 2014 #7
He's pro-SNP and pro-independence Anarcho-Socialist Sep 2014 #8
o.m.g. bluemarkers Sep 2014 #10
Isn't it great... LeftishBrit Sep 2014 #11
Rupert Murdoch thinks it's an opportunity for Rupert Murdoch Anarcho-Socialist Sep 2014 #9
Yeah but Murdoch won't live forever...Scotland on the other hand... mackerel Sep 2014 #13
If the Scots vote Yes fedsron2us Sep 2014 #14
Good point about the demographics muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #15
Agree 100% on the latter point fedsron2us Sep 2014 #16
If Murdoch's for Independence, then I'd instinctively be against it. Matilda Sep 2014 #21
Bonnie Prince Charlie wasn't against the English Anarcho-Socialist Sep 2014 #25
True, Butcher Cumberland fought with the Scottish Lowlanders Matilda Sep 2014 #30
OT question: Wales and England.... steve2470 Sep 2014 #22
They haven't been so keen on it, on the whole muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #23
There was a parliament in Machynlleth geardaddy Sep 2014 #28
The answer is no Anarcho-Socialist Sep 2014 #26
FWIW the correct spelling is "Senedd" geardaddy Sep 2014 #27
Good catch! n/t Anarcho-Socialist Sep 2014 #29
John Oliver begs Scotland not to go...lol mackerel Sep 2014 #24
Actually, Cameron may not be ABLE to offer that deal after all. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #31
A lot of promises were made by the "No" camp. T_i_B Sep 2014 #32
From this morning's statement, Cameron sees to be looking to use the "No" vote to his own ends ... non sociopath skin Sep 2014 #33
I think a system of "only English MPs vote on this" looks more like what he'll want muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #34
I have seen calls for a UK constitutonal convention. T_i_B Sep 2014 #35
I agree about the over-centralisation... LeftishBrit Sep 2014 #36
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