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Denzil_DC

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12. What was so good about Benn's speech?
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 07:14 PM
Dec 2015

He's not a fan of fascism, I gathered that. And applause? I thought the SNP were a bunch of yobs for exhibiting such unparliamentary behaviour.

Many (I'd argue far more substantive) speeches today from all parties, except the DUP and Lib Dems (unless I missed one), expressed serious and very well thought through doubts about a large number of aspects of the government's approach. I don't recall Benn rebutting any of them.

BTW, you've apparently fallen into the trap of making this all about Corbyn. I have nothing but contempt for any member who voted on that self-seeking basis on an issue like this, and it doesn't do justice to what were a surprising number of thoughtful speeches from both sides of the debate (I'm ignoring the absolute zoomers for now).

ETA, for completeness: If you really want to talk about Labour in this context, we might as well have some figures: of the shadow cabinet 11 voted for, 16 against, 1 abstained (don't have details of names, but I think we can make some informed guesses - the abstention was chief whip Rosie Winterton).

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That's gonna leave a mark. nt 2naSalit Dec 2015 #1
Just more right wing demagoguery chapdrum Dec 2015 #2
Idiotic and unbecoming T_i_B Dec 2015 #3
I agree steve2470 Dec 2015 #5
Kinda covered it here: Denzil_DC Dec 2015 #4
yes, sorry I missed your thread! nt steve2470 Dec 2015 #7
No worries. Denzil_DC Dec 2015 #8
thanks! nt steve2470 Dec 2015 #9
I think it might backfire on him muriel_volestrangler Dec 2015 #6
Final vote: Denzil_DC Dec 2015 #10
numbers... Ironing Man Dec 2015 #11
What was so good about Benn's speech? Denzil_DC Dec 2015 #12
What a difference 17 days makes Denzil_DC Dec 2015 #13
Disgusting comment... LeftishBrit Dec 2015 #14
Except for the Shadow Chancellor, that's grossly unfair. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2015 #15
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