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In reply to the discussion: EU Referendum: 23.06.16 [View all]

Ironing Man

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Thu Apr 14, 2016, 03:09 AM
Apr 2016

they'll be the same as those who've voted for the SNP and who voted against in the Scot Indyref...

UKIP, like the SNP, have had to become a good deal more than their headline policies - you don't win council seats on questions over the EU, and electoral politics is about accepting some things you are indifferent to, and some things you really don't like if it brings enough people with you on the biggest issues.

i've voted SNP in Holyrood and council elections because while i'm a convinced unionist, the SNP not only had other policies i liked, but in the final analysis were the only party who looked remotely competant at being a government - while i don't quite beleive the idea that all politics is local, i have children who need a working education system, i have a car that needs decent roads and for them to be well gritted in winter, and i want a health system that works and is in the right place.

Labour, and Labour and the LD's, failed at that stuff - being in the UK, or not having a referendum over the issue, doesn't help me if i can't get to work, or my kids school is both a wreck and going in the wrong direction...

EU Referendum: 23.06.16 [View all] 04alsabi Apr 2016 OP
Hoping that 'Remain' wins... LeftishBrit Apr 2016 #1
And the age of the turnout. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #2
An interesting breakdown of opinion across certain demographics: 04alsabi Apr 2016 #3
... Ironing Man Apr 2016 #4
Salmond and Sturgeon at least give the impression of competent leadership. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #6
They could be protest voters. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #5
Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn to set out EU case Bad Dog Apr 2016 #7
You mean he's going to be honest and look at two sides of the argument? non sociopath skin Apr 2016 #8
I don't mean anything other than what I've said. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #9
Guardian's coverage of it as he spoke started here: muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #10
Latest breaking news. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #11
This is more like it. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #12
You can get involved with the Campaign to Stay in the EU here T_i_B Apr 2016 #13
I signed up - I think my area would probably go for 'Remain' anyway, but don't want to risk it LeftishBrit Apr 2016 #16
I actually still consider myself Euro-sceptic! T_i_B Apr 2016 #17
Is Boris making a bid for the Republican nomination? Bad Dog Apr 2016 #14
I wish they would! LeftishBrit Apr 2016 #15
Sounds like a win/win all round. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #18
When the Okies left Oklahoma and moved to California, they raised the average intelligence level in Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2016 #19
So, Ian Botham backing Brexit makes the Sunday Times front page 04alsabi Apr 2016 #20
While the march against austerity barely gets a mention. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #22
Treasury analysis of the (estimated) economic consequences of Brexit: 04alsabi Apr 2016 #21
Theresa May wants out of the European Convention on Human Rights 04alsabi Apr 2016 #23
Saw that yesterday. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #24
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