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Bad Dog

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66. We had the poll tax too.

Wed May 11, 2016, 11:44 AM

May 2016

Admittedly not for as long as you did, but we still had it.

I get that you don't want to think ill of your leader, but you have to admit things have turned out pretty good for both the Tories and the SNP. And if there's a deal we won't find out for years, not until it's declassified.

I think the SNP are still riding the wave of populism post referendum, and as long as they can blame everything on the Tories that's not going to change for a long time. And the Tories will continue using the SNP bogeyman to frighten people away from Labour.

I could be wrong, I often am, but it still feels like a stitch up.

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Scottish Parliament, Welsh Assembly, London Mayoral, Local Government and PCC elections [View all] T_i_B Apr 2016 OP

Yes, I hadn't realised it was time for PCC voting again. non sociopath skin Apr 2016 #1

Very true. T_i_B Apr 2016 #4

Oxford City Council is up... LeftishBrit Apr 2016 #2

The Scottish Parliament is run on the D'Hondt voting system Denzil_DC Apr 2016 #3

Got my card through the door just the other day. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #5

London calling... 04alsabi Apr 2016 #6

Welcome to DU; as an ex-Londoner, good to hear from you LeftishBrit Apr 2016 #7

Can I second that. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #8

I originally thought it was Goldsmith's to lose T_i_B Apr 2016 #9

The media coverage has tended to boil it down to two things: 04alsabi Apr 2016 #10

Is Zac Goldsmith related to the Goldsmith who led the "Referendum Party" in the Nineties? Ken Burch Apr 2016 #18

His son. He's an ecological Conservative muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #19

Sounds like a surprisingly interesting family. Ken Burch Apr 2016 #21

Bexley...is that the area that used to be Edward Heath's parliamentary constituency? n/t. Ken Burch Apr 2016 #11

It overlaps with it - there have been lots of boundary changes since then. LeftishBrit Apr 2016 #12

Yes, that's right! 04alsabi Apr 2016 #13

I always thought "Old Bexley and Sidcup" sounded like a couple of Beatrix Potter characters. Ken Burch Apr 2016 #17

Good shout! 04alsabi Apr 2016 #20

I think that Sidcup sounds more like an overweight elf vainly attempting to perch on a flower. non sociopath skin Apr 2016 #22

in sunny Wyre forest... Ironing Man Apr 2016 #14

One thing I'm expecting... T_i_B Apr 2016 #23

A reminder: the deadline for registration is the 18th of April 04alsabi Apr 2016 #15

Labour is going to lose badly in Scotland again...and Corbyn is blameless for that. Ken Burch Apr 2016 #16

I think the current anti-semitism issue could also be a factor T_i_B Apr 2016 #24

... Ironing Man Apr 2016 #25

Well... LeftishBrit Apr 2016 #27

I agree with Ken in the Scottish context. Denzil_DC Apr 2016 #26

I disagree about John Mann T_i_B May 2016 #28

OK, he just happened to have a TV camera crew in tow ... Denzil_DC May 2016 #29

The altercation took place in Millbank TV studios T_i_B May 2016 #30

Can't it be both? Denzil_DC May 2016 #31

I agree with you, Denzil. non sociopath skin May 2016 #32

Prediction for The Guardian: Labour to lose 175 seats from 2012 muriel_volestrangler May 2016 #33

It's Polling Day T_i_B May 2016 #34

Same here in South East Northumberland. non sociopath skin May 2016 #38

The other thing to add.... T_i_B May 2016 #42

Voted! 04alsabi May 2016 #35

As long as you aren't in Barnet! T_i_B May 2016 #40

... Ironing Man May 2016 #36

Just voted. Bad Dog May 2016 #37

As I expected, quiet as the grave at our Polling Station. non sociopath skin May 2016 #45

I remember the turnout for that was tiny last time. Bad Dog May 2016 #46

I'll vote this evening in the Scottish parliament elections. Denzil_DC May 2016 #39

Voted this morning for Council and PCC LeftishBrit May 2016 #41

There are also by-elections in Ogmore and Sheffield Brightside and Hillsborough muriel_volestrangler May 2016 #43

Heard virtually nothing about Sheffield Brightside & Hillsborough one T_i_B May 2016 #44

Scottish results are in. Denzil_DC May 2016 #47

Denzil, I'd be really interested in your views as to why Labour are in freefall in Scotland. non sociopath skin May 2016 #50

I don't know how much I'd claim to be "on the ground", Denzil_DC May 2016 #51

Well, in addition to haemorraging votes to the SNP T_i_B May 2016 #52

I saw it expressed by someone in Labour Denzil_DC May 2016 #53

It suits both the Tories and the SNP Bad Dog May 2016 #54

Can't say I agree with any of that. Denzil_DC May 2016 #55

It was a typo. I meant both. Bad Dog May 2016 #56

In the Scottish context, "bothy parties" isn't inapt! Denzil_DC May 2016 #57

You're honestly saying anglophobia wasn't an issue? Bad Dog May 2016 #58

But if you listen back to what you've just typed, I could retaliate that it sounds like Scotophobia! Denzil_DC May 2016 #59

The difference is Bad Dog May 2016 #60

Shark Jumped Alert!!!1! Denzil_DC May 2016 #61

Which is mostly a reaction to the Anglophobic campaign the SNP launced. Bad Dog May 2016 #62

OK, now you're seriously taxing my patience. Denzil_DC May 2016 #63

Fair enough. Bad Dog May 2016 #64

He's passing show. Denzil_DC May 2016 #65

We had the poll tax too. Bad Dog May 2016 #66

I look at it this way. Denzil_DC May 2016 #67

I don't know how they do it, but it's probably delegated. Bad Dog May 2016 #71

Theory vs practice.... T_i_B May 2016 #68

True. Denzil_DC May 2016 #69

I don't deny the SNP's current appeal T_i_B May 2016 #72

From what credible analysis I've seen, Denzil_DC May 2016 #73

However ... Denzil_DC May 2016 #70

Oxford City Council remains Labour, with only minor changes LeftishBrit May 2016 #48

Looks like Sadiq Khan has won in London T_i_B May 2016 #49