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Response to Stevepol (Original post)

Sun May 31, 2015, 11:48 AM

5. "Belief" is not enough.

What does Bernie believe about the ELECTRONIC VOTING MACHINES? (your title, my emphasis)


I don't want to know what Bernie "believes" about electronic voting machines. I want to know what he DOES about verifying vote counts (or exposing the inherent inability of current e-voting systems to provide verification). Can he even prove that he himself was elected to the Senate? No other elected official can do this, and none of them even try to. Why? How is it that they are "trusting" to private corporations, all of them using 'TRADE SECRET' code--code that the public is forbidden to review--to tabulate election results, with half the states doing NO AUDIT AT ALL of the results, and the other half doing only a miserably inadequate 1% audit. And don't even get me started on WHO owns and runs the PRIVATE corporations that are 'counting' all our votes--it would make your hair stand on end. It is no wonder that Congress has something like a 10% approval rating. Most of the members of Congress represent NO ONE. Or rather, they represent the 0.01%. Many of them were NOT elected by the people. And NONE of them can prove that they were elected.

It is not a matter of "belief." It is a matter VERIFICATION. If verification is NOT POSSIBLE, the system is criminally fraudulent and inherently anti-democratic. And those things are true whether you like the result or not. They would be true if every elected official were a socialist and a peace activist. (As Josef Stalin, in communist Russia, is alleged to have said: "It's not the votes that count; it's who counts the votes!"

To my knowledge, there is not a single elected Democratic leader in this country--nor even any of those who were NOT s/elected, nor any party leaders at all--who have challenged this criminally fraudulent and inherently anti-democratic vote counting system. And, believe me, Bernie Sanders will not do so if he is serious about wanting to be s/elected--and if he does challenge the vote counting system, in defiance of our Corporate/MIC rulers, he will see a swift end to his political career. He probably knows this. I think they all do. And if he is not just a decoy--someone to bleed off the leftist energies of the majority (especially with regard to the zillion dollar military/security state/ police state thievery)--he will keep his lip zipped and hope for the best. We will never know what he "believes" about 'TRADE SECRET' vote counting.

Although Bernie Sanders is an independent, he has to play by the same rules as everybody else who seeks power within our Corporate/MIC system. So do not expect him to violate Rule no. 1: Silence about our criminally fraudulent and inherently anti-democratic 'TRADE SECRET' vote counting system. He won't likely do it; he CAN'T do it and remain viable as a candidate for president (or any office). And, in the unlikely event that he does do it, we should know that he is sacrificing his career for the rest of us. That would be an exceedingly noble and patriotic act.

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