Are you saying mathematician are not capable of CT? Do you think paper ballots can not be (Reply #12)

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12. Are you saying mathematician are not capable of CT? Do you think paper ballots can not be

manipulated? Why yes, ballot box stuffing has been a problem in the past, if there is a return of paper ballots, it will happen again. Just add a couple hundred here and there and you have a big vote difference.

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53 replies	Author	Time	Post
What does Bernie believe about the ELECTRONIC VOTING MACHINES? [View all]	Stevepol	May 2015	OP
I write about this a lot in FLA. A stronger audit of paper ballots against machine totals is needed.	TheNutcracker	May 2015	#1
We should make it an issue	lovelydestruction	Dec 2015	#47
Long past time	Vincardog	May 2015	#2
Read these links!	Baobab	May 2016	#48
I would add that people interested should Google William Spoonamore.	Dustlawyer	Aug 2016	#51
The 'Hursti Hack' of the Optical Scan machines	Hacking_Democracy	Aug 2016	#52
Thanks for bringing this up.	SusanCalvin	May 2015	#3
Paper ballots, hand counted, in public, cameras rolling. Nothing less.	Scuba	May 2015	#4
Yes, yes, yes!	kath	Jun 2015	#16
Yes	Rosa Luxemburg	Jun 2015	#19
"Belief" is not enough.	Peace Patriot	May 2015	#5
Have you ever worked in Early Voting or voting on Election Day?	Thinkingabout	Jun 2015	#7
That has nothing to do with the vote count accuracy. n/t	Wilms	Jun 2015	#22
If your claim iscorrect then show the facts, I have presented my information.	Thinkingabout	Jun 2015	#23
Nice try.	Wilms	Jun 2015	#24
Nice try on your part, this is appearing to be another CT.	Thinkingabout	Jun 2015	#26
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Guess I have my answer.	Thinkingabout	Jun 2015	#31
Showing the Facts	Stevepol	Aug 2015	#40
I understand entirely, I need to see some facts and not conspiracy therory.	Thinkingabout	Aug 2015	#42
It is a FACT that voting machines are UNVERIFIABLE	Stevepol	Aug 2015	#43
We also found the paper ballots in Florida was not verifible, this has been proven.	Thinkingabout	Aug 2015	#45
In Florida the printed paper poll tapes are a public record of the election.	Hacking_Democracy	Aug 2016	#53
It doesn't appear paper ballots helped the DNC in 2000, in fact it cost Gore the election.	Thinkingabout	Jun 2015	#6
Boston uses a paper ballot that you can choose to mark with a pencil--no chad issues--or	merrily	Jun 2015	#8
Did you know on the Diebold machines you are given a review of your ballot?	Thinkingabout	Jun 2015	#25
Review is irrelevant unless you have written verification.	merrily	Jun 2015	#27
Having dealt with pencil strokes for several years I don't find this was an accurate system of	Thinkingabout	Jun 2015	#33
Testimony in Congress was that it was very easy to program the software to cheat. Not that anyone	merrily	Jun 2015	#34
Did I say I dealt with pencil strokes on ballots? Louisiana went to electric machines as early as	Thinkingabout	Jun 2015	#35
The software is easy to rig. That is not even debatable.	merrily	Jun 2015	#36
Yes, this is why so many people, monitors, companies, grocery stores, etc use computers.	Thinkingabout	Jun 2015	#37
Total non sequitur fail.	merrily	Jun 2015	#38
When you get a valid argument we can resume.	Thinkingabout	Jun 2015	#39
Banks, grocery stores, etc.	Stevepol	Aug 2015	#41
What "cost Gore the election" was the US Supreme Court	sketchy	Jun 2015	#9
I do not engage in CT, electronic voting and counting is more accurate.	Thinkingabout	Jun 2015	#10
Do you engage in mathematics?	sketchy	Jun 2015	#11
Are you saying mathematician are not capable of CT? Do you think paper ballots can not be	Thinkingabout	Jun 2015	#12
No, I am not saying "mathematician are not capable of CT"	sketchy	Jun 2015	#13
Do Democrats care enough to demand that the votes are never left alone in the hands	Cal33	Jun 2015	#15
Are you serious? Hiw long have you been voting electronically or with	Thinkingabout	Jun 2015	#17
If there are both Dem. and Repub. people present at all times with the votes, the	Cal33	Jun 2015	#20
Here's an interesting event you may enjoy reading	Stevepol	Aug 2015	#44
Nothing new here, the what ifs has not been proven. Apparently you do not like voting machines, I	Thinkingabout	Aug 2015	#46
The voting machine totals can be rigged to match the voter sign in books.	Hacking_Democracy	Aug 2016	#49
This message was self-deleted by its author	Thinkingabout	Aug 2016	#50
I've been harping on this for years, and the Democratic Party hasn't	Cal33	Jun 2015	#14
I suspect that they have benefitted in some more convoluted way. Maybe it helps in their primary	GoneFishin	Jun 2015	#32
This is actually one of the few things that NC has gotten right.	Persondem	Jun 2015	#18
fair	1STWURLDVIEW	Jun 2015	#21
We need a paper record verified by the voter, on hand, available for a recount. Period. Anybody who	GoneFishin	Jun 2015	#30

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