We should make it an issue (Reply #47)

In the discussion thread: What does Bernie believe about the ELECTRONIC VOTING MACHINES? [View all]

Tue Dec 29, 2015, 11:27 AM

47. We should make it an issue

Not enough time now, but people send petitions off to the White House for all kinds of stuff. They say we don't want to know how the sausage is made. Well, if you might be putting some kind of stank on it we do. We don't have to control everything, but our vote seems like a pretty personal, guaranteed right. We should be able to watch the frisson of our collective opinions coming together more organically. More transparently.
There, I hope I've inspired someone, because I'm probably not going to do another thing about it.
But, I had a flash of passion for a moment.
I'd sign a petition, though. Maybe email my congressman, but omg my congressman sucks!
We Need Voting Transparency. The Count is the Thing. It's Our Vote! (I'm imagining myself marching with a placard)

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53 replies	Author	Time	Post
What does Bernie believe about the ELECTRONIC VOTING MACHINES? [View all]	Stevepol	May 2015	OP
I write about this a lot in FLA. A stronger audit of paper ballots against machine totals is needed.	TheNutcracker	May 2015	#1
We should make it an issue	lovelydestruction	Dec 2015	#47
Long past time	Vincardog	May 2015	#2
Read these links!	Baobab	May 2016	#48
I would add that people interested should Google William Spoonamore.	Dustlawyer	Aug 2016	#51
The 'Hursti Hack' of the Optical Scan machines	Hacking_Democracy	Aug 2016	#52
Thanks for bringing this up.	SusanCalvin	May 2015	#3
Paper ballots, hand counted, in public, cameras rolling. Nothing less.	Scuba	May 2015	#4
Yes, yes, yes!	kath	Jun 2015	#16
Yes	Rosa Luxemburg	Jun 2015	#19
"Belief" is not enough.	Peace Patriot	May 2015	#5
Have you ever worked in Early Voting or voting on Election Day?	Thinkingabout	Jun 2015	#7
That has nothing to do with the vote count accuracy. n/t	Wilms	Jun 2015	#22
If your claim iscorrect then show the facts, I have presented my information.	Thinkingabout	Jun 2015	#23
Nice try.	Wilms	Jun 2015	#24
Nice try on your part, this is appearing to be another CT.	Thinkingabout	Jun 2015	#26
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Guess I have my answer.	Thinkingabout	Jun 2015	#31
Showing the Facts	Stevepol	Aug 2015	#40
I understand entirely, I need to see some facts and not conspiracy therory.	Thinkingabout	Aug 2015	#42
It is a FACT that voting machines are UNVERIFIABLE	Stevepol	Aug 2015	#43
We also found the paper ballots in Florida was not verifible, this has been proven.	Thinkingabout	Aug 2015	#45
In Florida the printed paper poll tapes are a public record of the election.	Hacking_Democracy	Aug 2016	#53
It doesn't appear paper ballots helped the DNC in 2000, in fact it cost Gore the election.	Thinkingabout	Jun 2015	#6
Boston uses a paper ballot that you can choose to mark with a pencil--no chad issues--or	merrily	Jun 2015	#8
Did you know on the Diebold machines you are given a review of your ballot?	Thinkingabout	Jun 2015	#25
Review is irrelevant unless you have written verification.	merrily	Jun 2015	#27
Having dealt with pencil strokes for several years I don't find this was an accurate system of	Thinkingabout	Jun 2015	#33
Testimony in Congress was that it was very easy to program the software to cheat. Not that anyone	merrily	Jun 2015	#34
Did I say I dealt with pencil strokes on ballots? Louisiana went to electric machines as early as	Thinkingabout	Jun 2015	#35
The software is easy to rig. That is not even debatable.	merrily	Jun 2015	#36
Yes, this is why so many people, monitors, companies, grocery stores, etc use computers.	Thinkingabout	Jun 2015	#37
Total non sequitur fail.	merrily	Jun 2015	#38
When you get a valid argument we can resume.	Thinkingabout	Jun 2015	#39
Banks, grocery stores, etc.	Stevepol	Aug 2015	#41
What "cost Gore the election" was the US Supreme Court	sketchy	Jun 2015	#9
I do not engage in CT, electronic voting and counting is more accurate.	Thinkingabout	Jun 2015	#10
Do you engage in mathematics?	sketchy	Jun 2015	#11
Are you saying mathematician are not capable of CT? Do you think paper ballots can not be	Thinkingabout	Jun 2015	#12
No, I am not saying "mathematician are not capable of CT"	sketchy	Jun 2015	#13
Do Democrats care enough to demand that the votes are never left alone in the hands	Cal33	Jun 2015	#15
Are you serious? Hiw long have you been voting electronically or with	Thinkingabout	Jun 2015	#17
If there are both Dem. and Repub. people present at all times with the votes, the	Cal33	Jun 2015	#20
Here's an interesting event you may enjoy reading	Stevepol	Aug 2015	#44
Nothing new here, the what ifs has not been proven. Apparently you do not like voting machines, I	Thinkingabout	Aug 2015	#46
The voting machine totals can be rigged to match the voter sign in books.	Hacking_Democracy	Aug 2016	#49
This message was self-deleted by its author	Thinkingabout	Aug 2016	#50
I've been harping on this for years, and the Democratic Party hasn't	Cal33	Jun 2015	#14
I suspect that they have benefitted in some more convoluted way. Maybe it helps in their primary	GoneFishin	Jun 2015	#32
This is actually one of the few things that NC has gotten right.	Persondem	Jun 2015	#18
fair	1STWURLDVIEW	Jun 2015	#21
We need a paper record verified by the voter, on hand, available for a recount. Period. Anybody who	GoneFishin	Jun 2015	#30

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