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passy

(853 posts)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:28 AM Apr 2016

Silly numbers from New York's primary election [View all]

I posted this in the Bernie Sanders group earlier and I thought this group might also find it interesting.

"If you look at my previous post I explained how the numbers for Kings and Bronx counties looked too perfect, well crunching the numbers some of them appear way too similar.

The numbers for Kings are 174 236 - 116 327 so 59.96% - 40.04% a 19.929% difference
A perfect 60% - 40% is 174 338 - 116 225 a 102 vote difference 0.035% of the total

The numbers for Bronx are 95 772 - 41 114 so 69.96% - 30.04% a 39.929% difference
A perfect 70% - 30% is 95 820 - 41 066 a 48 vote difference 0.035% of the total

The increase in votes for Hillary in Kings is also almost a third extra (32,9995%).

The increase in votes for Kings from 2008 is 9.9963% or 26 406 votes a perfect 10% increase would be 26415.7 a 9.7 vote difference or 0.0367% of the total increase. (At least based on the results still up at the NYT)

In 2008 Hillary and Obama combined got 1963 votes more than Hillary and Bernie combined a 0.108% decrease in 2016. If you also count the votes for Edwards and others in 2008 you actually see a greater 2.4% decrease of in 2016.

Kings is the biggest county in terms of votes and saw the biggest increase, Bronx actually saw a 1.2% decrease and Queens a 0.94% increase.

Another interesting number is 126.000 the number of purged voters in Kings (Brooklyn) is almost the same as the number of people who voted for Obama in 2008 (126 885). If all these people were unable to vote then it makes no sense that Kings experienced such an increase compared to 2008 when none of the other big counties did and the state as a whole had a lower turn out. Could it have been made to look like the purge really hadn't affected the turn out.

Is it just me or is there too many numbers that don't make sense."

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There are too many numbers that don't make sense Kalidurga Apr 2016 #1
No one wants to talk about it passy Apr 2016 #4
Scary the polls were close enough they could get away with it if the did it. Kalidurga Apr 2016 #5
The 538 aggregate of polls put Hillary 15 points ahead. That's not close. pnwmom Apr 2016 #6
Yes. There are widespread descrepancies that favor the establishment candidate. cui bono Apr 2016 #9
Exit polls have plenty of reasons of their own for being inaccurate. pnwmom Apr 2016 #16
Interesting how you dismiss exit-polls entirely ... passy Apr 2016 #17
No, I don't dismiss them. They are imperfect but useful tools, like all polls. n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #19
It still doesn't explain the numbers I talk about in my post and ... passy Apr 2016 #11
well MFM008 Apr 2016 #2
I'm not talking about mistakes passy Apr 2016 #3
The newly registered could have been balanced out by people moving or dying. pnwmom Apr 2016 #7
So Kings is the only county with people moving or dying? passy Apr 2016 #12
Who "won" NY isn't what really matters. The delegate count is. eomer Apr 2016 #10
Who won New York and by how much is what really matters ... passy Apr 2016 #13
OK, what I was arguing against is the talking point saying it doesn't matter because... eomer Apr 2016 #14
You miss the point Scootaloo Apr 2016 #20
Silly lefties. Unicorns, rainbows and fair elections are just blue sky pipe dreams. Scuba Apr 2016 #8
K&R passy Apr 2016 #15
Disgusting. bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #18
Why do we have to ELECT our Queen? RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #21
Wall Street anointed her autorank May 2016 #22
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