Lol, I bet you think Bush won fairly. nt (Reply #14)

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Mon Apr 25, 2016, 06:26 PM

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14. Lol, I bet you think Bush won fairly. nt

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149 replies	Author	Time	Post
Show Me The Source Code Or Throw The Voting Machines Out!!!!! [View all]	scottie55	Apr 2016	OP
I say just throw them out, period. There are better ways. Ones in which people	silvershadow	Apr 2016	#1
YES!	haikugal	Apr 2016	#4
We have to fight for this. We don't currently have a fair democracy. nt	stillwaiting	Apr 2016	#15
What better methods would you suggest?	metroins	Apr 2016	#52
Yes workers can cheat.	zeemike	Apr 2016	#60
Pair Republican counters with Democratic counters...	Thespian2	Apr 2016	#87
I would add:	bvar22	Apr 2016	#121
Well if I were designing it myself.	zeemike	Apr 2016	#128
Why just retired people?	druidity33	Apr 2016	#129
To add some importance to the job.	zeemike	Apr 2016	#130
I can't endorse "closed doors".	bvar22	Apr 2016	#131
Not sealed off or hidden from view	zeemike	Apr 2016	#134
In most nations, our included, the ballots are counted AFTER the poll closes.	bvar22	Apr 2016	#139
Well that is a good point.	zeemike	Apr 2016	#143
The more complex, the easier it is to make it close enough	annabanana	Apr 2016	#132
Exactly.n/t	zeemike	Apr 2016	#135
Depends on who controls	kacekwl	Apr 2016	#82
.	merrily	Apr 2016	#2
India Voting	LiberalArkie	Apr 2016	#3
I Bet They Are Open Source And Verifiable Right?	Yallow	Apr 2016	#6
I read several years ago about a system they had developed at a university there.	LiberalArkie	Apr 2016	#10
A first-year high school computer science student	SusanCalvin	Apr 2016	#24
Those machines were designed from the git go to be hacked. That is the only way they would have been	LiberalArkie	Apr 2016	#29
I completely agree. HAVA was a huge scam.	SusanCalvin	Apr 2016	#44
And you need to see the ballot definition file for every election.	Wilms	Apr 2016	#5
It Needs To Do Multiple Backups During The Process So Tampering Can Be Spotted	Yallow	Apr 2016	#7
Not sure.	Wilms	Apr 2016	#11
At any time the congress could have mandated secure voting machines (it would be easy to do)	LiberalArkie	Apr 2016	#8
The ghost of Andy Stephenson agrees.	truedelphi	Apr 2016	#19
If the revolution can continue long enough to get some people in congress. If the old Occupy	LiberalArkie	Apr 2016	#25
Right You Are! Each month, there are 360,000,000 transactions processed by ATM	truedelphi	Apr 2016	#33
People have never demanded it. There are federal laws about accuracy with financial transactions	LiberalArkie	Apr 2016	#42
Taking a receipt home does no good to ensure accuracy	JohnnyRingo	Apr 2016	#47
If people insist on machines, that sounds good. nt	SusanCalvin	Apr 2016	#77
I miss him	annabanana	Apr 2016	#136
bullshit - this is one party doing this crap - republicans	certainot	Apr 2016	#84
Someone Might Vote The Corrupt Assholes Out	Yallow	Apr 2016	#9
Voting in the U.S. is one big joke. nt	valerief	Apr 2016	#12
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ n/t	truedelphi	Apr 2016	#34
do you think these voting machines are also the reason Obama won twice?	La Lioness Priyanka	Apr 2016	#13
Lol, I bet you think Bush won fairly. nt	phazed0	Apr 2016	#14
the second time around he did.	La Lioness Priyanka	Apr 2016	#17
Second time not so much either.	SusanCalvin	Apr 2016	#22
No, I think Obama had such a huge majority	SusanCalvin	Apr 2016	#23
Exactly. In 2008, he had huge crossover voter appeal.	truedelphi	Apr 2016	#35
As I understand it ...	aggiesal	Apr 2016	#62
Yeah, that too.	SusanCalvin	Apr 2016	#75
obama knew from the beginning	questionseverything	Apr 2016	#56
Yep. I remember that. nt	SusanCalvin	Apr 2016	#76
I think ACT and SAT fill in the circles	PatrynXX	Apr 2016	#16
You know how they count those?	JohnnyRingo	Apr 2016	#43
You realize that NY used verifiable paper ballots, right? n/t	pnwmom	Apr 2016	#18
this does not fit the narrative, so the reality is rejected.	La Lioness Priyanka	Apr 2016	#20
?	scottie55	Apr 2016	#30
the optical scans can be rigged too	questionseverything	Apr 2016	#58
The OP may be in response to NY (I have no idea)	SusanCalvin	Apr 2016	#26
In New York 126,000 voters 14% of all Democrats in Brooklyn were purged. That's no accident.	think	Apr 2016	#31
Thank you for pointing out some most important information	truedelphi	Apr 2016	#39
A Republican elections office person has been suspended and an investigation is ongoing.	pnwmom	Apr 2016	#40
You realize that unlike more progressive Calif, where a person can still	truedelphi	Apr 2016	#36
They could have voted for their hearts desire if they had registered last October, since he	pnwmom	Apr 2016	#41
Supposedly, the Democratic Party wants to reach out...	earthmanneil	Apr 2016	#67
I didn't, but that's why suppression is important.	roody	Apr 2016	#53
Do they use optical scanners to count votes, or do they hand count? n/t	Bodych	Apr 2016	#54
Yes. Should have been done years ago.	SusanCalvin	Apr 2016	#21
The legacy of SCOTUS and the GWB selection rolls on, doesn't it? nt.	silvershadow	Apr 2016	#27
I Guess I Am Not The Only One That Knows/Thinks Elections Are Fixed	scottie55	Apr 2016	#28
what WILL it take to get people to act on this???	Fast Walker 52	Apr 2016	#32
How do we even know Sanders supporters didn't hack Michigan	HillareeeHillaraah	Apr 2016	#37
How about going higher Tech instead?	Amimnoch	Apr 2016	#38
Internet Voting	scottie55	Apr 2016	#57
no that's no good - that means if there's a problem every one	certainot	Apr 2016	#85
Am I recalling correctly that Diebold said they couldn't generate a receipt?	paparush	Apr 2016	#122
I believe the voting machines in Ohio are accurate.	JohnnyRingo	Apr 2016	#45
Well they stole Ohio in 2004	Pharaoh	Apr 2016	#49
Those were different machines	JohnnyRingo	Apr 2016	#55
Strickland Was Beyond Evil	scottie55	Apr 2016	#59
He's running for senator in Ohio to replace Rob Portman	JohnnyRingo	Apr 2016	#91
foolish to trust any system we the people cannot personally oversee	questionseverything	Apr 2016	#61
Our system has oversight	JohnnyRingo	Apr 2016	#93
while making sure the "output" the machine spits out is possible, not reporting more votes than	questionseverything	Apr 2016	#108
We have a sign in book	JohnnyRingo	Apr 2016	#111
you keep referring to making the count match how many voted, which is ONE step	questionseverything	Apr 2016	#114
The paper trail is the verification of machine count	JohnnyRingo	Apr 2016	#115
please provide a link to the state board of elections that shows	questionseverything	Apr 2016	#116
I do it myself	JohnnyRingo	Apr 2016	#125
i knew no human actually counted the vote...just wanted you to admit it ,thanks	questionseverything	Apr 2016	#140
Any system can be defrauded to an extent...	JohnnyRingo	Apr 2016	#141
	questionseverything	Apr 2016	#142
All the main touchscreen machine types and the Diebold Optical Scans have been hacked in tests.	Hacking_Democracy	Aug 2016	#145
Ohio uses three different companies to record our votes.	JohnnyRingo	Aug 2016	#146
All insiders with access can change the electronic votes, not just the voting machine companies.	Hacking_Democracy	Aug 2016	#147
Paper ballots	Pharaoh	Apr 2016	#64
Me either. nt	SusanCalvin	Apr 2016	#78
I'm guessing you just patented purple ink remover	JohnnyRingo	Apr 2016	#94
They tried to steal it in 2012 as well	dflprincess	Apr 2016	#65
Ohio voting machines are not connected to the internet	JohnnyRingo	Apr 2016	#92
it was the reporting website that they tried to cover with a "mirror" website with a different	questionseverything	Apr 2016	#109
Thank you	dflprincess	Apr 2016	#144
just have elections by a DMV thumb-print app on your phone	veronique25	Apr 2016	#46
We are not screwed	Pharaoh	Apr 2016	#48
proprietary code serves a rigged system	The Wizard	Apr 2016	#50
100% NT	northernsouthern	Apr 2016	#51
It's the optical scanners and central tabulators doing the dirty work...	Bodych	Apr 2016	#63
At least there are marked ballots that could be reviewed.	paparush	Apr 2016	#123
Paper ballots, hand counted, in public, cameras rolling, nothing less.	Scuba	Apr 2016	#66
You got it :-) n/t	Bodych	Apr 2016	#68
Yep. nt	SusanCalvin	Apr 2016	#74
That's a real election, a fair had honest election. Bingo!! nt	99th_Monkey	Apr 2016	#81
Print the ballots	SCVDem	Apr 2016	#69
Yeah!	Pharaoh	Apr 2016	#70
excellent cannabinoid idea, but...	veronique25	Apr 2016	#95
K&R. Please don't forget to...	Mr_Jefferson_24	Apr 2016	#71
Did not know this group existed. This primary is so rigged. It is very obvious for who.	bkkyosemite	Apr 2016	#72
Oh my!	SusanCalvin	Apr 2016	#79
K&R. Yes please!	Overseas	Apr 2016	#73
Kicked and recommended to the Max!	Enthusiast	Apr 2016	#80
In India and other countries with parliamentary systems, voters don't choose candidates	eridani	Apr 2016	#83
It makes me wonder why our elections costs so much money.	midnight	Apr 2016	#86
I think paper ballot with counting at each precinct is THE only way to go.	MrMickeysMom	Apr 2016	#88
"It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide	ish of the hammer	Apr 2016	#89
Yes, we could be screwed. And our media ignores it.	CaptainTruth	Apr 2016	#90
Recall Election Fraud in Wisconsin? You Betcha!	red dog 1	Apr 2016	#96
The mere fact that the source code is proprietary is suspicious	ToxMarz	Apr 2016	#97
But... WHAT'S INSIDE THAT iPHONE ?! TELL ME; WHAT'S INSIDE THAT iPHONE	King_Klonopin	Apr 2016	#98
Bern it Down! nt	silvershadow	Apr 2016	#99
But, here in America- "I want the results NOW!!!"	stlsaxman	Apr 2016	#100
I believe if we polled Americans and asked them if they could wait until the next day	stillwaiting	Apr 2016	#101
The NETWORKS want the results NOW.	paparush	Apr 2016	#124
There is no reason there would be delays	LiberalLovinLug	Apr 2016	#126
i have an indian friend that brags to me about being apart of a democracy	retrowire	Apr 2016	#102
Exactly! We have more protections in Las Vegas!!	ViseGrip	Apr 2016	#103
Some interesting pro and con opinions	elljay	Apr 2016	#104
Didn't happen the first time; won't happen this time either.	closeupready	Apr 2016	#105
USA is looking pretty damned silly right about now	KPN	Apr 2016	#106
Paper ballots	Plucketeer	Apr 2016	#107
And people think that by just talking about it,	Madmiddle	Apr 2016	#110
Yep.	Kurovski	Apr 2016	#112
Slot Machines vs Voting Machines	benld74	Apr 2016	#113
Kicked and recommended.	Uncle Joe	Apr 2016	#117
I Used to Be a Government Programmer	Leith	Apr 2016	#118
Your response should be its own OP	d_legendary1	Apr 2016	#120
If we can't throw out the computers ...	november3rd	Apr 2016	#119
Bingo. This would solve a lot of problems. nt.	Else You Are Mad	Apr 2016	#138
YES	Angry Dragon	Apr 2016	#127
+10000000	colsohlibgal	Apr 2016	#133
If my grocery store can give me	Marthe48	Apr 2016	#137
agree	clarkkentvotes	Sep 2016	#148
DARPA funded Opensource voting software and hardware	Luvapottamus	Mar 2019	#149

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