Barack Obama

ellisonz

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5. Correct.

Wed Dec 7, 2011, 11:02 PM

Dec 2011

However, I think it's important to note that with the elimination of General Discussion: Presidency that sort of debate needs somewhere to go that is not Soapbox. The BOG group on DU2 never got many posters, in fact no one has posted there in over a month: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=388 - I think that if we act like our opponents we will become too insular and not welcoming. I think it's important to have an exchange of ideas and I think we are stronger for it.

I do not believe Obama supporters have to agree with the President on all issues and I myself have been critical of some of the administrations actions. I don't think we lose the element of control over posting standards by allowing spirited debate to exist. We all have strong skins. I do not need a literal safe haven, I need somewhere that there can be enhanced moderation while still allowing free flowing debate. How boring would it be if we all agreed all the time?

I think until we have some community standards, like I/P in DU2, that is detrimental to ban people without giving them a chance to become acquainted with the new reality of DU3. People are in the learning process of how to be civil once again. I am prepared to give them the chance to learn to treat their political opponents with respect.

Just my two cents.

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Proposal for Temporary Guidelines [View all] ellisonz Dec 2011 OP

I like the way the old groups work. JTFrog Dec 2011 #1

Thank you. This is our safe haven. Says so right at the top. Nt DevonRex Dec 2011 #2

Hosts are here to address what juries cannot. Perhaps DevonRex Dec 2011 #3

Correct. ellisonz Dec 2011 #5

There is no one on this earth that agrees with the president on all issues Number23 Dec 2011 #6

So are we just going to ban anybody that posts something we don't like without warning? ellisonz Dec 2011 #8

As I said Number23 Dec 2011 #10

And as I've said ellisonz Dec 2011 #11

It was explained to you why folks stopped posting in the BOG Number23 Dec 2011 #13

I remember NanceGreggs, she was a smart woman and a great writer. ellisonz Dec 2011 #14

You obviously don't know the history here. DevonRex Dec 2011 #7

Well this is my opinion and it reflects a lot of time on DU. ellisonz Dec 2011 #9

I don't think an abstract list of rules is necessary grantcart Dec 2011 #4

And I've been removed as host for having a different opinion... ellisonz Dec 2011 #12

I am lost why you would think that the BOG and the GDP would be interchangeable, they serve entirely grantcart Dec 2011 #17

My reasoning ellisonz Dec 2011 #18

As it should be. JTFrog Dec 2011 #31

The BOG is a safe haven and should remain so... SidDithers Dec 2011 #15

Well then we're going to need GDP back. ellisonz Dec 2011 #16

Yes, if the BOG group isn't going to be a good replacement for GD-P then ... Tx4obama Dec 2011 #19

I've created a petition. ellisonz Dec 2011 #20

Civil disagreements are fine, vigorous arguments are fine, drawn out all out fights are fine, grantcart Dec 2011 #21

I felt the old BOG had become irrelevant. Also, we posted within 3 mins of eachother. ellisonz Dec 2011 #22

I stopped posting in BOG because a group of folks organized in an outside forum to harass BOGgers by grantcart Dec 2011 #27

No worries braddah. ellisonz Dec 2011 #28

I think that the confusion came from the fact ... Tx4obama Dec 2011 #23

Did people not know our mission statement before volunteering DevonRex Dec 2011 #24

Yes, I did read your mission statement when I first came to this group Tx4obama Dec 2011 #25

That is exactly what it means pipoman Dec 2011 #30

This forum is a safe haven. Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #32

A bit of a repeat below, but since this group is specifically called a safe haven Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #35

Here's is what Skinner said ... Tx4obama Dec 2011 #26

Here is what EarlG said ... JTFrog Dec 2011 #36

Tx do you wish to host this group as the purpose is written? DevonRex Dec 2011 #38

After reading through the thread, I think that some people boston bean Dec 2011 #29

This isn't GDP. This is the BOG. The mission DevonRex Dec 2011 #37

I think most people who post on the BOG are sufrommich Dec 2011 #33

^^this. n/t JTFrog Dec 2011 #34