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In reply to the discussion: Pardon my disinclination. [View all]

Hekate

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17. Jesus. Where were you between 2001 and 2008? This is BUSH/CHENEY's legacy.
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 05:25 AM
Jun 2013

I myself said here on numerous occasions in the 2008 election season that if we elected McCain we might as well kiss the country goodbye, because he would continue and expand every Bush/Cheney policy.

I said that if we elected Obama it would at least give us a CHANCE of BEGINNING to right the country, but that it would only be a CHANCE, because ONE MAN could not undo all the damage that had been done.

Then, unbeknownst to anyone, a cabal of Congressional Repubs got together on Inauguration Day and swore to block everything proposed by Obama.

And to the best of their ability, they have done so. It should amaze any reasonable observer that Obama and the Dems in Congress have managed to pass any legislation at all.

You are right about one thing: Obama is not King. He can't pass laws -- that is Congress's job. He can't change laws, either. He has no magic scepter. His is the Executive function, and the Commander in Chief, and stuff like that. But there is a whole lot of shit he CANNOT DO WITHOUT CONGRESS.

And then there is the Intelligence gathering branch of government --> BUSH/CHENEY'S LEGACY in its current iteration <-- which apparently runs semi-autonomously, like a 4th branch of government. CONGRESS is going to have to untangle this rat's nest. But the Repubs in Congress seem to only be interested in rat-f***ing, which is dirty tricks as done by Tricky Dick Nixon.

As for bequeathing power to all his successors, Obama quite recently TOLD CONGRESS TO SCALE BACK some of the powers of his office. Congress is the entity that has to do that, since they expanded the powers of the office to oblige BUSH/CHENEY.

Pardon my disinclination. [View all] madamesilverspurs Jun 2013 OP
k&r graham4anything Jun 2013 #1
Well said. Aristus Jun 2013 #2
Obama isn't king. He will leave, but his spying apparatus will be here. dkf Jun 2013 #3
The national security apparatus question existed before and will exit after this President grantcart Jun 2013 #5
Ask Sen. Susan Collins how much oversight they've been providing. dkf Jun 2013 #8
Sen. Collins is a habitual liar on national security matters grantcart Jun 2013 #9
And besides ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #18
Yes, but there was Nixon, Reagan and Bush LeftInTX Jun 2013 #13
The technology has only now caught up to the data. The types of surveillance achievable here dkf Jun 2013 #14
It's not his apparatus: it's the apparatus that he inherited. If you have ideas struggle4progress Jun 2013 #15
Jesus. Where were you between 2001 and 2008? This is BUSH/CHENEY's legacy. Hekate Jun 2013 #17
You should go underground and get off the internet if you are so concerned Kolesar Jun 2013 #19
Your points are well taken. grantcart Jun 2013 #4
Thanks, grantcart. madamesilverspurs Jun 2013 #6
Perhaps using "setting one's hair on fire" as pejorative may not be helpful in bridging chasms grantcart Jun 2013 #7
LOL. ucrdem Jun 2013 #10
Well said, madame.. Cha Jun 2013 #11
It seems to me that a lot of those whiners would have been happier than hell if Romney would've won Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #12
Oh yeah, they'd find some Cha Jun 2013 #16
I couldn't agree more Andy823 Jun 2013 #20
It's a lot more fun to set fire to GOP hair(balls). IrishAyes Jun 2013 #21
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