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calimary

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61. Oh Dear God, will he ever.
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 12:38 PM
Jul 2015

ANYBODY we put up will get criticism.

She's used to it, and probably by now she has a skin so thick you can't even cut it with a chain saw. She's had enemies for years who've thrown everything at her that they could think of, and nothing stuck, and nothing proved out, and nothing worked.

There's one other element in play here, too, in her favor. The shock value of "nailing her" on some imaginary blown-up phony scandal or other has worn off. I suspect that a whole lot of potential voters have "investigation fatigue" with the Clintons by now. Simply BECAUSE of the fact that they've been investigated up the ying-yang by ken starr and darrell issa and this goudy guy and everybody else and all their monkeys uncles, and NOTHING turned up. NOTHING substantial EVER turned up. Not EVER. Hillary has even pointed out that she and Bill were the "most-investigated and MOST EXONERATED political couple" ever. All they were ever able to hope to nail her husband on, finally, after - what? 60 or 70 MILLION dollars spent on investigations and bribing and dirt-digging and "Arkansas Project-ing", was a stained blue dress. That's ALL they had, after years and multiple millions of dollars and tons of wasted taxpayer time and money and press ink and talk show time. That's ALL they had. Which, in the final analysis, was pretty doggone pathetic. Just frickin' EMBARRASSING. That's ALL they had!!! The whole "she murdered Vince Foster" thing didn't hold up even for three seconds. Monica Lewinsky and the stained blue dress - were the best they could come up with, after all that. PATHETIC. And of course they didn't get him impeached-and-removed. On the other hand, they made themselves look like prissy puritanical laughing-stocks obsessed with sex almost to the point of irrationality.

I think that left a little bit of a hangover in America. They'll try and scream and yell and stomp their little feet like tantrum-throwing three-year-olds yet again as Hillary proceeds (and hopefully prevails), and there'll just be an under-taste of "aw shit, THAT again?" And "THAT again" didn't gain them anything and never did get rid of him anyway, so "THAT again" is a strategy that failed MISERABLY. They'll haul that strategy out AGAIN, too, because it's all they've got, and it's boring, and it didn't work the last time, and it didn't draw any blood and it didn't get them what they wanted then, so it won't get them any farther this time. Of course, there WILL be voters who resonate with it and validate it, but they already weren't gonna vote for her anyway (so fuck 'em). I suspect a lot of other voters will just tune that out, because it's old and boring and stupid and it tends to bring out voters who themselves are perceived as old and boring and stupid - so it thereby becomes completely irrelevant and utterly dismissible. Even a turn-off to whatever it is they're trying desperately to sell to America by wooden-headed sex-obsessed operatives from that other side of the aisle.

So I'd almost say - "GO AHEAD! Knock yerselves out! Please proceed, governors."

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Authoritarian followers see those who question their idols as attacking enemies. nt OnyxCollie Jul 2015 #1
Hypocrisy is the homage vice pays to virtue. nt wyldwolf Jul 2015 #2
Speaking of hypocrisy, OnyxCollie Jul 2015 #3
Speaking of slanted. wyldwolf Jul 2015 #4
Clinton's directive was revealed in the secret cables Chelsea Manning released to WikiLeaks. OnyxCollie Jul 2015 #5
And we should believe Wikileaks why? But keep changing the subject. wyldwolf Jul 2015 #6
LOL! OnyxCollie Jul 2015 #8
LOL! wyldwolf Jul 2015 #9
Believing Wikileaks is not neccessary. sulphurdunn Jul 2015 #36
This is the Hillary Clinton room. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #39
Yep! George II Jul 2015 #105
Hate to burst a bubble awoke_in_2003 Jul 2015 #79
Here is some more hypocrisy: murielm99 Jul 2015 #96
Hmmm~ sheshe2 Jul 2015 #37
The OP is a perfect illustration of what's been happening on DU! I love it! Cha Jul 2015 #84
So if Hillary wins, Bernie loses (praying that doesnt happen) and when Bernie then shows randys1 Jul 2015 #101
Looks like I attracted the ire of a grade A puritopian. wyldwolf Jul 2015 #7
I can't resist shooting fish in a barrel. OnyxCollie Jul 2015 #10
self mutilation. You're the fish in the barrel. wyldwolf Jul 2015 #12
Oh, you got me with your advanced argumentative skills. OnyxCollie Jul 2015 #13
Oh, you got me with your slanted sources and revolutionary rhetoric wyldwolf Jul 2015 #14
Heh! ismnotwasm Jul 2015 #78
You're not "shooting" anything. Cha Jul 2015 #86
Puritopian!!!! Love it. The spell check is Purity pain! redstateblues Jul 2015 #81
Yep, that is so right. Iliyah Jul 2015 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Little Star Jul 2015 #15
The straw man HassleCat Jul 2015 #16
The OP is not a "strawman" if that's what you're getting at. Cha Jul 2015 #87
OK, I guess HassleCat Jul 2015 #95
Lol i think you pissed a few off with this op. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #17
Yes, and at the same time bashing HRC non-stop. Iliyah Jul 2015 #18
And i just saw an op that is trying to make o'malley the new third way boogeyman. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #19
I saw that Iliyah Jul 2015 #20
Yes. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #23
Personal responsibility demwing Jul 2015 #21
I have no idea what you mean and this is the hrc room. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #22
I just realized what you meant and you are a group host of a safe haven hrmjustin Jul 2015 #24
AND, although a safe haven for HRC supporters, they are still posting. Iliyah Jul 2015 #29
Not that one. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #31
Justin isn't the one who's "doing it wrong". Cha Jul 2015 #89
I don't think I saw that one ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #44
Looks like they are moving on to other candidates. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #45
SICK of that shit. calimary Jul 2015 #49
Sanders supporters really need to grow some tougher skin rock Jul 2015 #28
They certainly need to learn how to deal with criticism. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #30
If he wins the nomination, we'll get a Republican president. nt SunSeeker Jul 2015 #52
Agreed. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #53
Oh Dear God, will he ever. calimary Jul 2015 #61
For those here who it is all about taking Hillary down i have a hard time believing hrmjustin Jul 2015 #65
The thing that pisses me off is - when they do that, all they're doing is giving ammo to the enemy. calimary Jul 2015 #76
I don't think they care. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #77
Your last line~ sheshe2 Jul 2015 #32
Thdy better get used to criticism because if he wins the nomination he will get a lot of it. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #33
How is this criticism of Sanders? It's obviously critical of fellow Democrats. mountain grammy Jul 2015 #41
This is criticism of the way people here treat Hillary and their hypocrisy. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #42
Answering legitimate questions is what is expected by any candidate. onecaliberal Jul 2015 #25
Just an fyi you are in the hrc room. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #27
The US whore press is not known for their "legitimate questions". Cha Jul 2015 #91
Yes, like the crawl saying 'Obama Bin Laden dead! Obamacare struck down by USSC!' freshwest Jul 2015 #98
But will you vote for her? Orrex Jul 2015 #26
AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service FrodosPet Jul 2015 #43
Wow. Orrex Jul 2015 #47
Just so you know it was not my alert. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #48
I've seen your posts supporting Hillary. okasha Jul 2015 #64
What will destroy the GOP in November 2016 HoosierCowboy Jul 2015 #34
You are correct cutroot Jul 2015 #55
The illustration and its over generalization pretty much exhibits what it decries.... marble falls Jul 2015 #35
This is the Hillary Clinton room. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #38
It looks like the hypocrisy of some of the posters on DU to me.. I've seen it.. it's not a secret Cha Jul 2015 #85
FYI TO ALL POSTING IN HERE THIS IS THE HRC ROOM AND THIS ROOM IS FOR SUPPORTERS. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #40
Can I still post here ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #54
Absolutely. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #56
Okay, Thanks ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #57
Yep. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #58
We need you to stick around DU, too. murielm99 Jul 2015 #94
Thanks. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #99
I asked to be taken off this jury locks Jul 2015 #46
I guess I'm missing something. Far from the first time for that. raouldukelives Jul 2015 #50
This is the Hillary Clinton room. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #51
Doh! My bad. No disrespect intended. nt raouldukelives Jul 2015 #100
This is perfect mcar Jul 2015 #59
I've noticed that ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #66
Intellectual dishonesty indeed mcar Jul 2015 #74
I did not even know you were taking my picture!!! guillaumeb Jul 2015 #60
Bernie Is Winning............ Stainless Jul 2015 #62
Thank you for violating our safe haven. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #63
So on DU we try to keep it civil, just FYI. Agschmid Jul 2015 #82
Nah, the OP is pointing out the truth and Bernie supporters can't handle it.. that's what's going.. Cha Jul 2015 #83
Winning how? BainsBane Jul 2015 #103
We seem to be getting swarmed this morning. okasha Jul 2015 #67
Yes and a few were banned. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #68
Good work. okasha Jul 2015 #71
Thanks. Hate doing it but i will not allow our members to be baited. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #72
Complete nonsequitor. Elmer S. E. Dump Jul 2015 #69
This is the Hillary Clinton room. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #70
No, it is Not. It's really quite the sequitur. Cha Jul 2015 #88
Thanks. Elmer S. E. Dump Jul 2015 #92
Can not be denied, ive witnessed it AuntPatsy Jul 2015 #73
Yep. Very sad. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #75
Nate Silver posted a tweet on this topic OKNancy Jul 2015 #80
The "Whore Press" has been America's Enemy #1 since I got into politics in 1999.. and has only Cha Jul 2015 #90
Also applies to money and fundraising. NYC Liberal Jul 2015 #93
Yeah, it'd be great if they didn't have to make up stuff to be upset about. Cha Jul 2015 #97
ROFL!!! that is pretty good Peacetrain Jul 2015 #102
Excellent, and I see that now, after she has agreed to do the interview tomorrow night.... George II Jul 2015 #104
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