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Hillary Clinton

yallerdawg

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13. Nice explanation of exactly 'where we are' here.

Reply to hrmjustin (Original post)

Thu Jul 9, 2015, 12:14 PM

Jul 2015

At the end of the day, the crowd sizes don’t indicate that Sanders will win — far from it — but the one takeaway from them is that the left wing of the Democratic Party wants to entertain the idea of a Clinton-less future, and Sanders is the candidate who has received the left’s energy at this point. As he is to the left of the other Democratic candidates not named Clinton, he’s become a natural focal point for frustration with Clinton’s ties to Wall Street, her center-left outlook, and her foreign policy past (e.g., her Iraq War vote).

I would also suggest polls show most left-wing liberals still support Hillary. Hillary supporters are just more pragmatic and do not want to jeopardize a Democratic presidential victory in 2016, and don't support 'someone else' for the reasons outlined in the article.

Plus, there are a lot of idealisms involved in supporting Hillary, including a plainly historical vote!

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Democrats 2016: Not Feeling the Bern Despite big crowds, Sanders remains a huge underdog to Clinton [View all] hrmjustin Jul 2015 OP

Hillary has a followering though she may not be pulling in big crowds does not mean she will lose by Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #1

The huge crowds thing is being overblown by the press to make her look bad. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #3

'Tis true, I know Hillary's record and where she stnds on the issues, I know her work record, Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #11

A group of friends of mine went to the Sanders thing up in Maine. MADem Jul 2015 #26

Kick & Recommended. William769 Jul 2015 #2

Glad to see you. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #4

Thanks Justin. William769 Jul 2015 #6

Hey! Cool! ismnotwasm Jul 2015 #16

Yes, good to see you, William! Cha Jul 2015 #18

Welcome back. n/t murielm99 Jul 2015 #23

Thanks all. William769 Jul 2015 #24

K & R Iliyah Jul 2015 #5

So they list Hillary's age as a disadvantage Lisa D Jul 2015 #7

She's a woman, don't you know OKNancy Jul 2015 #9

And remember, women's life expectancy is longer, huh, how does this work. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #12

Go team! shenmue Jul 2015 #8

Hillary Clinton is the only Democratic candidate who could be Texas in play Gothmog Jul 2015 #10

Nice explanation of exactly 'where we are' here. yallerdawg Jul 2015 #13

+1. If crowd size mattered, we might be saying Vice President Sarah Palin right now. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2015 #14

It's really an indictment that enrages BS supporters. yallerdawg Jul 2015 #15

"Nonwhite versus white voters" from your link, Justin Cha Jul 2015 #17

I've been pointing out for weeks (months?) to Sanders supporters who brag about.... George II Jul 2015 #19

I know you have, George.. I've been seeing it. This race is for the Presidency.. not just Cha Jul 2015 #20

Imagine Barack Obama and Bill Clinton out campaigning for Hillary Clinton? George II Jul 2015 #21

Yes, I can imagine it! Bill, was great at the Dem Convention.. believe that was the 2012 one. :) Cha Jul 2015 #22

kicking. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #25

It was an interesting article...and gave me some insight into crowd size vs delegates Sheepshank Jul 2015 #27