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MADem

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26. A group of friends of mine went to the Sanders thing up in Maine.
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 09:00 AM
Jul 2015

They have no intention of voting for him--they thought it would be a fun experience, and they had a restaurant in mind as well.

I've gone to rallies of people I'd be unlikely to vote for, too.

If Trump was speaking nearby, I'd bring a camera and try for a good spot--doesn't mean I think he's anything but a massive ass, though.

That said, Bernie says some positive things. He will not get my primary vote, but I don't think he is a 'bad' guy and he does seem to care about the working stiffs. My major disconnect with him is that he has no ability--and hasn't indicated any clue--as to how he will persuade a Congress, where he worked as an independent, caucusing with the Democrats but NOT doing any of the gritty administrative legwork expected of most in the caucus--to do his bidding, should he become POTUS.

I just wonder how well he can "work a crowd" when that crowd consists of legislators with their own agendas. It's not like he's ever whipped votes, made trades, cut deals, or done any of the vote counting work in the Democratic caucus, because he's not one of them, he's never held a peer position in the House or Senate party structure--he only has sworn to vote with them on procedural matters, not on legislation. He's not part of the "Party Discipline" set (and they can muster that discipline if it means enough) in that regard.

I honestly don't think he has the political persuasive chops for that kind of effort--he'd need a wingman who knew the Hill really well (it's why Cheney made Bush pick him).

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Hillary has a followering though she may not be pulling in big crowds does not mean she will lose by Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #1
The huge crowds thing is being overblown by the press to make her look bad. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #3
'Tis true, I know Hillary's record and where she stnds on the issues, I know her work record, Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #11
A group of friends of mine went to the Sanders thing up in Maine. MADem Jul 2015 #26
Kick & Recommended. William769 Jul 2015 #2
Glad to see you. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #4
Thanks Justin. William769 Jul 2015 #6
Hey! Cool! ismnotwasm Jul 2015 #16
Yes, good to see you, William! Cha Jul 2015 #18
Welcome back. n/t murielm99 Jul 2015 #23
Thanks all. William769 Jul 2015 #24
K & R Iliyah Jul 2015 #5
So they list Hillary's age as a disadvantage Lisa D Jul 2015 #7
She's a woman, don't you know OKNancy Jul 2015 #9
And remember, women's life expectancy is longer, huh, how does this work. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #12
Go team! shenmue Jul 2015 #8
Hillary Clinton is the only Democratic candidate who could be Texas in play Gothmog Jul 2015 #10
Nice explanation of exactly 'where we are' here. yallerdawg Jul 2015 #13
+1. If crowd size mattered, we might be saying Vice President Sarah Palin right now. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2015 #14
It's really an indictment that enrages BS supporters. yallerdawg Jul 2015 #15
"Nonwhite versus white voters" from your link, Justin Cha Jul 2015 #17
I've been pointing out for weeks (months?) to Sanders supporters who brag about.... George II Jul 2015 #19
I know you have, George.. I've been seeing it. This race is for the Presidency.. not just Cha Jul 2015 #20
Imagine Barack Obama and Bill Clinton out campaigning for Hillary Clinton? George II Jul 2015 #21
Yes, I can imagine it! Bill, was great at the Dem Convention.. believe that was the 2012 one. :) Cha Jul 2015 #22
kicking. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #25
It was an interesting article...and gave me some insight into crowd size vs delegates Sheepshank Jul 2015 #27
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