Bernie's plans - short term great for families, long term...

[LisaM]

11. Right. I do believe in a somewhat limited form of socialism.

I think his ideas are taking hold because we have failed the middle class and to provide as much opportunity as we can, while allowing health care profits to fall into the hands of the greedy and to put a monetization model on absolutely everything (part of the housing crisis is caused, I think, by the idea developers have that if an apartment building in NYC, say, isn't being squeezed for every possible dollar you can get out of it, they're now "losing" money, even if they have comfortable income derived from it).

But we're not Denmark, we can't implement these policies immediately, our society is not homogenous, and a lot of people would actually be worse off in the short run, not better.

And frankly, for whatever reason, a Sanders' society strikes me as completely joyless. I don't know if it's incessant railing, the lack of nuance, the drumbeat of criticism of anyone who's not him, but I don't see him putting things like patronizing the arts or encouraging writers or musicians on the table. (Drifting off topic a little, I know, but these things are part of the whole angry package that you get with him).