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Cha

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Fri Oct 16, 2015, 10:35 AM Oct 2015

Sanders Supporter: "No, Bernie didn't win the debate last night." [View all]

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It is striking to see that the front page of this subreddit is filled up with references to Bernie winning last night's debate as measured by 11 person focus groups and CNN online "live debate polling".

Cut it out. I'm a Bernie supporter, and he didn't win the debate last night in terms of performance. Hillary did. It's not the end of the world. I think there are some big takeaways from this debate that will allow us to adjust our message and tactics going forward, but please, let's not peddle a narrative that makes us seem completely out of touch.

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The Reality

Hillary won quite clearly. While Bernie got off to a rough start, getting hit on guns and appearing off guard of foreign policy, Hillary seemed extremely well prepared for even the toughest issues she faces (emails, Iraq vote). She performed really, really strongly. She didn't seem too aggressive, but was certainly forceful, and appeared very knowledgeable on the issues. As such, she was able to allay fears that she was unexciting, and potentially a crumbling candidate.

Bernie, meanwhile, drew a lot of the same rhetoric from his stump speech, but failed to articulate why his vision was more compelling when Hillary would respond with things like "I too, have a tuition-free college plan, and mine is even more feasible." On the hallmark progressive issues of Bernie's campaign (criminal justice reform, social welfare programs, paid family and medical leave, wealth and income inequality, better education systems), Hillary essentially agreed and gave a "more polished" response. Other issues where distinctions should have been much more clear, they were also not (i.e. single payer, campaign finance).

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As this was the first debate, however, it was many people's first real look at Bernie and Hillary side-by-side, and will likely make things a bit more challenging for Bernie going forward. People who were tepid on Hillary may be reinvigorated, and people who weren't too familiar with either will probably break in favor of Hillary. Hillary will almost certainly see a rise in the polls.

MOre.. https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/3oqax1/no_bernie_didnt_win_the_debate_last_night/

MADem~

[font color=blue]This is Hillary's Group~ Please leave your negative attitude at the door. Mahalo~[/font]

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