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NJCher

(35,622 posts)
25. OK, lemmee' give this a try
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 12:43 AM
Oct 2015

What if Trump is the nominee? Will the Koches then be spending another $887 million? I think not.

Trump was supposed to crash and burn a long time ago. He's still going strong and the only thing different is that Carson is coming up close on him. Meanwhile, Jeb Bush has slashed the salaries of his campaign execs. So it may very well be that the republican nominee is someone so far out of the mainstream that traditional republican techniques will not be able to be employed.

Without traditional republican techniques of sliming, books by such sleazebags as Jerome Corsi, and all the rest of their time-honored tricks, the republicans could be in a bit of quandary. What do they do?

Now, given this situation, if Hillary is the Democratic choice, she becomes the consummate corporate candidate. She's the establishment. So we are then in the position of having an erratic, completely uncontrollable republican running against someone who is quite happy to take big corporation donations. The Democrats then become the conventional and the republicans are the unconventional.

It seems quite apparent, with the support for Trump and Carter and the support for Bernie, that the voters are pretty sick of establishment politics.

As crazy as Trump is, when the selection is winnowed down, he may attract a sizable group of independents, especially if the Democratic candidate is a proven corporate supporter.

Now, I am well aware that Clinton enjoys a sizable lead over Bernie. But what also has to be taken into consideration is the trend of what happens when Bernie goes into a state where Clinton has a sizable lead. He whittles it down quite nicely. So in other words, the trend is that, state-by-state, voters hear Bernie's message and respond to it.

It appears that some people think that is only going to happen in a few states and that's the end of that. Well, I don't think that's the case.

All I'm really saying here is that I see trends, and these trends aren't changing. Everyone thinks they will. Trump can't possibly stay in the race. Well, yes, he can. Bernie can't possibly keep up his track record. Well, yes, he can.

What I'd like to know is just what is going to change this situation? Why will these trends stop? What will cause an abrupt turnaround and cause the respective nominations to be somebody like Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton? Why would that happen??


Cher

Anybody else getting Berned out? [View all] redstateblues Oct 2015 OP
#bernout OhZone Oct 2015 #1
Berned out and sick of the racist posts. leftofcool Oct 2015 #2
desperate enid602 Oct 2015 #3
I keep asking for explanation as to how Sanders is viable Gothmog Oct 2015 #4
OK, lemmee' give this a try NJCher Oct 2015 #25
This is Hillary's Group. Sorry, no coming in here and trashing. We're here to support Cha Oct 2015 #28
You did not answer my question Gothmog Oct 2015 #46
Outside of Iowa and NH workinclasszero Oct 2015 #5
I think it will get even more ugly at this site murielm99 Oct 2015 #6
I agree workinclasszero Oct 2015 #10
I have always been generous to this place financially. murielm99 Oct 2015 #13
Good idea until you know workinclasszero Oct 2015 #14
Well, money given to DU helps keep the site operating. murielm99 Oct 2015 #16
It should be obvious after March 1st next year workinclasszero Oct 2015 #21
So many of you , so certain of her. V0ltairesGh0st Oct 2015 #7
This is the Hillary Clinton group. murielm99 Oct 2015 #11
When it comes out onto the front page V0ltairesGh0st Oct 2015 #15
Is that a threat? murielm99 Oct 2015 #18
Well at least were both Cub fans. V0ltairesGh0st Oct 2015 #23
That's their problem Pay Attention to where you are. You have the whole rest of the Cha Oct 2015 #30
Damn straight we're certain of Hillary. I don't go into the BS group and make an empty Cha Oct 2015 #29
Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author zentrum Oct 2015 #9
This is the Hillary Clinton group. murielm99 Oct 2015 #12
Yup, sick of that shit, but I'm more excited about Hillary than ever. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #17
Yeap, I'm starting to think its FUD... they even use Freep'd picks of Hillary uponit7771 Oct 2015 #19
Don't get me started. LOL. Cha Oct 2015 #20
People forget how rapidly Howard Dean collapsed in 2004 bluestateguy Oct 2015 #22
That's right.. we did and I became a big fan of John Kerry's. I worked for him for Prez and am Cha Oct 2015 #35
I was one of those Deaniacs. But I'm a Democrat first and foremost BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #43
It is Bernie or oblivion for the democratic party Baadger Oct 2015 #24
He doesn't have the ground organization... Gloria Oct 2015 #26
NO, bernie will not win. Hillary will win beause she's the best candidate for President. Cha Oct 2015 #31
Funny how the Democratic Party got along fine for decades without Bernie nt 72DejaVu Oct 2015 #37
The Democratic Party wasn't good enough for him...until he decided he wanted to NYC Liberal Oct 2015 #63
That's right! Look how well it all worked out for President Palin! Walk away Oct 2015 #39
feel the burn is a porn Reference stonecutter357 Oct 2015 #42
::Sigh:: NastyRiffraff Oct 2015 #48
Geez, I hate this Left Behind shit. okasha Oct 2015 #49
Here we go again. Boomer Oct 2015 #27
Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #32
How sad.. you have not one clue what you're talking about. Cha Oct 2015 #33
sorry Bernie supporter go back to your own room she will beat him again in next debate FloridaBlues Oct 2015 #34
Bernie Sanders is not a Democrat. nt Walk away Oct 2015 #40
This is a fact that many Sanders supporters don't understand, and it's the core reason they BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #45
Not at all newfie11 Oct 2015 #36
Sorry, we're not talking to you.. this is Hillary's Group. you have the whole rest of the board to Cha Oct 2015 #38
K&R! stonecutter357 Oct 2015 #41
Berned out? yallerdawg Oct 2015 #44
From Day One! Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #47
I am Berned out. Kang Colby Oct 2015 #50
You bet katmille Oct 2015 #51
I got banned from the Bernie group redstateblues Oct 2015 #52
Me too! I didn't even know I was in it. Walk away Oct 2015 #54
Never really felt the fire GusBob Oct 2015 #53
This message was self-deleted by its author misterhighwasted Oct 2015 #55
Wow.. you really tried, GusBob. Good for you! Tried it and didn't like. I don't like it, either. Cha Oct 2015 #56
He often reminds me of Regis Philbin … NurseJackie Oct 2015 #59
His supporters have soured me on him. They are a reflection on his leadership & candidacy. stevenleser Oct 2015 #57
Lol, Berniebro speaking at a Roman forum GusBob Oct 2015 #60
Not of Bernie Sanders... just the obnoxious supporters. NurseJackie Oct 2015 #58
Great post, welcome to DU GusBob Oct 2015 #61
Great post! workinclasszero Oct 2015 #62
makes sense. nt BootinUp Oct 2015 #64
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