Turns out all the Bernie in 2016 and Obama in 2008 comparisons are bogus. [View all]

[Tommy2Tone]

Every day I read another Bernie fan talk of how badly Obama was doing in polling against Clinton in 2008. Then I read a post on Daily Kos and it showed something that Bernie and his fans don't want to talk about.

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2015/12/10/1458880/-Polling-update-Trump-widens-lead-does-2008-polling-give-Sanders-hope#read-more

At the same point in the 2008 campaign here is where the numbers stood. From the DK front page post.

Barack Obama’s deficits ranged from -10 to -30 in that outlier-looking ABC poll. The average among this lot was Clinton 44, Obama 25, or a 19-point deficit.

Despite his national deficits, Obama was already making his move in Iowa, in a race he would end up winning by eight points over both John Edwards and Clinton (who ended up just behind Edwards in third).

Oops. The Bernie folks don't want to mention Edwards.

Obama had made his move in Iowa and it took away people feeling Hillary was inevitable. It also made black voters realize Obama could win. Then Edwards went away and it was over.

None of those things are relevant to this election. Sanders already has the "anybody but Clinton" crowd. Instead of Edwards polling between 10-15 points, there is MOM at 2 points. Black voters are showing no signs of moving to Bernie and most importantly Bernie Sanders is not Barack Obama.

Leading to the following conclusion