Hillary Clinton

ciaobaby

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31. Good God

Wed Feb 10, 2016, 03:56 PM

Feb 2016

Why even have a primary if the "Party" will decide who represents best?
I guess your idea of democracy is to say to hell with the people who vote, we know what's best.

So condescending and patriarchal.

If Clinton is "chosen" to be the nominee, she will likely lose as no one likes to have their vote disregarded by a party that calls itself 'democratic".

Good luck with this tactic !

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Shaking fists at the sky! [View all] Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 OP

Also she has been a loyal Democrat for years. William769 Feb 2016 #1

Exactly! Tommy2Tone Feb 2016 #18

Hillary is the only Democrat in the primary race. leftofcool Feb 2016 #2

Right Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #3

I think it's pretty funny ismnotwasm Feb 2016 #4

Majority of them are not Dems. Iliyah Feb 2016 #5

Did not know she won the Dems in NH as well? Tommy2Tone Feb 2016 #19

Every state has its own rules... freebrew Feb 2016 #36

There are rules, and I'm sure that Mr. Sanders is savvy enough to have read and understood the rules hamsterjill Feb 2016 #77

Let'em be angry all they want. It just shows how little they know about the Dem Party. BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #6

Yes shenmue Feb 2016 #8

This, this a thousand times THIS GusBob Feb 2016 #11

My respect for you is enormous! Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #14

Aw, thanks, SitB. I feel the same about you. BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #140

+1 treestar Feb 2016 #138

Maybe Sanders should have found a party with rules he liked 72DejaVu Feb 2016 #7

You explained it perfectly DesertRat Feb 2016 #9

Everybody knew the rules going into this primary season, no secrets. George II Feb 2016 #10

Maybe they should try "Liberal Underground"... yallerdawg Feb 2016 #12

Democratic Socialist Underground Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #16

Because he's not a member of the party. I don't get why that's so hard for them to grasp. Tarheel_Dem Feb 2016 #13

They have contempt for the party Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #15

Yup. Bernie won NH by packing the polls with Independents. SunSeeker Feb 2016 #17

Yes, in progressive NH Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #21

Yes, and NH has a higher percentage of Sanders friendly Independents than the rest of the US. SunSeeker Feb 2016 #26

I've been a Democrat all my life and always voted for Democrats. justhanginon Feb 2016 #20

Amen Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #22

They really don't realize how duplicitous Sanders is being here KitSileya Feb 2016 #23

Damn. I never thought of that. Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #27

I had to double-check myself KitSileya Feb 2016 #32

I don't think they really care... wysi Feb 2016 #33

I know. However, I like to expect better of them. KitSileya Feb 2016 #39

I would think most of the people posting have never joined their local dem party to know the rules FloridaBlues Feb 2016 #24

Why would they? Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #25

Hillary is the only democrat in the primaries workinclasszero Feb 2016 #28

Bernie fan logic 72DejaVu Feb 2016 #29

Funny. What is the point of a super delegate then? Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #30

Well many of them are new. Some never heard the term "super delegate" before today 72DejaVu Feb 2016 #35

Good God ciaobaby Feb 2016 #31

Meanwhile, on the other side of the aisle... wysi Feb 2016 #34

It's a theoretical argument only. Treant Feb 2016 #38

Yes, indeed. Theoretical only Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #90

Superdelegates WERE elected 72DejaVu Feb 2016 #109

Shaking fist at sky, we don't need any of that! seaotter Feb 2016 #37

I have been reading your posts on this thread - Who are you supporting in this race? CajunBlazer Feb 2016 #100

After reading this thread... Catch2.2 Feb 2016 #40

Yes, because letting independents and republicans choose the Democratic nominee KitSileya Feb 2016 #41

Basically , all it takes to be a member of the Democratic Party is to declare such. seaotter Feb 2016 #44

Sort of correct. Treant Feb 2016 #45

Super delegates will eventually vote with the people. To "claim" them at this point is disingenuous, seaotter Feb 2016 #48

Argument shift. Treant Feb 2016 #54

No, just a bit of reality. seaotter Feb 2016 #63

Citation Required Treant Feb 2016 #68

No "insult" just an observation. seaotter Feb 2016 #69

Welcome to my block list. Treant Feb 2016 #73

I'm hurt. seaotter Feb 2016 #75

They don't like the rules Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #94

Wrong! leftofcool Feb 2016 #56

+1000 Treant Feb 2016 #67

The "supers" will not decide the race. seaotter Feb 2016 #74

No complaints. seaotter Feb 2016 #71

Which is to support the Democrat Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #95

You mean "support the Democratic nominee". seaotter Feb 2016 #98

In this case, the Democrat Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #103

This, is, of course, just your opinion. seaotter Feb 2016 #105

It's math Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #108

There are too many variables involved to reach such a static result. (that is math, too) seaotter Feb 2016 #110

Not really Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #116

This is why we have elections, instead of haveing "speculators" decide. seaotter Feb 2016 #118

Yes Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #119

small does not equal zero. (that is math, as well) seaotter Feb 2016 #120

Conceded Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #121

The party ought to be open to anyone who wants to join it and participate 72DejaVu Feb 2016 #46

Here, Here! seaotter Feb 2016 #50

Not in every state. KitSileya Feb 2016 #47

All are, and should be welcomed. seaotter Feb 2016 #52

So you wouldn't mind if independents who don't support the Democratic party KitSileya Feb 2016 #57

When "the rules" are kept intact, so be it. seaotter Feb 2016 #64

Welcomed with open arms Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #97

Rules can be changed. seaotter Feb 2016 #99

Why would we do that, seaotter? Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #102

Maybe, but it is an option. seaotter Feb 2016 #107

Perhaps, if Bernie does not prevail 72DejaVu Feb 2016 #113

Rules could, theoreticaly, be changed by the rules committee just prior to the convention. seaotter Feb 2016 #115

Can you please cite to a rule that allows BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #125

Well, that's true 72DejaVu Feb 2016 #134

You fail to understand Treant Feb 2016 #43

Good point! KitSileya Feb 2016 #51

We'll agree to disagree. Treant Feb 2016 #60

Yes, we'll agree to disagree on the word choice, KitSileya Feb 2016 #76

If I were her, Treant Feb 2016 #79

Yes, of course Clinton isn't perfect. KitSileya Feb 2016 #86

Bottom line for me too. BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #127

Exactly! treestar Feb 2016 #139

"party leaders" will fall in line with the votors, or they will no longer be "party leaders" seaotter Feb 2016 #53

Nope! leftofcool Feb 2016 #59

Yup. seaotter Feb 2016 #65

So where were all the Sanders supporters, progressive warriors to the last... wysi Feb 2016 #70

Your wrong. seaotter Feb 2016 #80

Anecdotal evidence is not admissible wysi Feb 2016 #82

Someone stayed home, maybe it was 3rd wayers. seaotter Feb 2016 #84

Our primaries are to nominate the DEMOCRATIC nominee for the presidency Lucinda Feb 2016 #49

A moot point, as the "supers" will fall in line with the voters. seaotter Feb 2016 #55

No they won't leftofcool Feb 2016 #62

Yup, one of the two running. seaotter Feb 2016 #66

Well yeah, because Hillary have the delegates she needs soon enough. Lucinda Feb 2016 #72

If that's the way it goes, ok. seaotter Feb 2016 #81

The super delegates have been part of the primary process for almost 50 years Lucinda Feb 2016 #83

No one "has" the supers until their votes are cast. seaotter Feb 2016 #85

They are committed. And rarely change unless someone drops out, then they shift. Lucinda Feb 2016 #87

No, they are NOT "committed" Not by any stretch of the imagination. seaotter Feb 2016 #88

This is the list as of right now: Lucinda Feb 2016 #91

This has nothing to do with the FACT that the "supers" are only "committed" to themselves. seaotter Feb 2016 #92

Nonsense. Find an election where they didn't support until their candidate dropped out. Lucinda Feb 2016 #93

Cite the rule that "commits" them. seaotter Feb 2016 #96

Primaries romana Feb 2016 #106

The primaries have no affect on whom the "supers" vote for. seaotter Feb 2016 #111

I didn't say they were romana Feb 2016 #114

No, they are not bound by any "obligation" seaotter Feb 2016 #117

I'm not about to support a guy... wysi Feb 2016 #61

So, you will stay home if Sanders is the nominee? seaotter Feb 2016 #89

Somebody has the vapors Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #101

I got banned from the BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #131

They didn't mind so much in 08 when Obama ended up with the nomination Lucinda Feb 2016 #42

Oh, never mind. dchill Feb 2016 #58

These are part of the Democratic primary process Gothmog Feb 2016 #78

By reading a lot of the posts out there, I do not think many of them riversedge Feb 2016 #104

This is a first time for many of them Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #112

"Sophomoric" is about BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #132

I actually paused after I typed the s----was doing to riversedge Feb 2016 #135

This is the sort of thing that really really bothers me GusBob Feb 2016 #137

I believe that the majority of Dem voters BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #122

Oh, there is no doubt that Dems will support Hillary Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #123

It�s not necessarily a good thing. At least at the state level. fleabiscuit Feb 2016 #124

The existence of Political Parties is a great point for discussion Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #128

There's a book out now on the 1912 election and the birth of the primary process SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2016 #126

Now that looks good! Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #129

Non party guy? But..but..he has plenty of non party supporters oasis Feb 2016 #130

Ha! :-) eom fleabiscuit Feb 2016 #133

I don't like the system either. wildeyed Feb 2016 #136