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SunSeeker

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14. It's so dishonest of Sanders to liken his socialism to the New Deal.
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 01:32 PM
Mar 2016

As the article explains:


During the mid-20th century, the United States was fortunate to avoid the program that socialists were calling for at that time. While Roosevelt experimented with different strategies in the New Deal, he did not undertake any large-scale nationalization, and the primary legacies he left behind were Social Security and regulatory agencies that not only maintained capitalism but also saved it from self-destructive excesses. Far from embracing socialism, Roosevelt rejected it and ran against socialist opponents, who had no doubt that socialism and the New Deal were very different.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/02/bernie-sanders-2016-socialism-213667#ixzz441qDkQy3 
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And it also explains why Sanders' "Democratic Socialist" label and claims he just wants what Denmark has is dishonest:

As the old socialist program of state ownership and planning became harder to defend in the era after World War II, “social democrats” and “democratic socialists”—terms intended to emphasize they weren’t Bolsheviks—championed expanded social-insurance programs and progressive taxation. These redistributive policies have been at the heart of the northern European model Sanders invokes, except that he misses one key aspect of it. Based on a “class compromise,” that model includes trade and tax policies sought by business. The northern European countries tax labor and consumption heavily, but they have open-trade policies and lower taxes on capital to foster growth.
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The Vermont senator calls for increasing the top marginal tax rate on capital gains to 64.2 percent, which would not only be nearly triple the current rate and a peacetime record in the United States but also far higher than in any of the countries Sanders admires. In contrast, Denmark’s tax rate on capital gains—the highest rate in Europe—is 42 percent; France’s, 34.4 percent; Sweden’s, 30 percent; and Germany’s, 25 percent. Under Barack Obama, the U.S. rate has risen from 15 percent to 23.8 percent, a significant increase but well within both recent U.S. experience and current patterns abroad.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/02/bernie-sanders-2016-socialism-213667#ixzz441qnYmO0 
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so far so good! Her Sister Mar 2016 #1
I think many BSER'S would be sorely disappointed if he were elected liberal N proud Mar 2016 #2
He'll never be elected kennetha Mar 2016 #4
"Free stuff" this is what democrats say now RANGERMAN89 Mar 2016 #32
Excellent read. William769 Mar 2016 #3
Exactly William, keep it out of my life also. misterhighwasted Mar 2016 #7
I've tried explaining that a liberal can not be a socialist and a socialist can not be a liberal Agnosticsherbet Mar 2016 #5
Exactly. I love this passage in the article about that: SunSeeker Mar 2016 #9
Good portrayal of the distinctions between the two. riversedge Mar 2016 #13
They call this 'red-baiting.' yallerdawg Mar 2016 #6
Yes, and this paragraph outlines how the GOP would eviscerate Sanders in ads: SunSeeker Mar 2016 #10
A 'socialist' Democratic nominee... yallerdawg Mar 2016 #11
K&R! DemonGoddess Mar 2016 #8
Great article! workinclasszero Mar 2016 #12
yup, far from what his stump speech tells. Total sleight of hand, free stuff. This is is deception misterhighwasted Mar 2016 #15
Perfect gif. LOL SunSeeker Mar 2016 #22
this! Her Sister Mar 2016 #24
It's so dishonest of Sanders to liken his socialism to the New Deal. SunSeeker Mar 2016 #14
Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #16
Really? He hates democracy? RANGERMAN89 Mar 2016 #30
I'll take Democracy over Socialism any day. How can one love Democracy yet fight to replace it misterhighwasted Mar 2016 #31
I'll choose critical thinking and not acting like a republican RANGERMAN89 Mar 2016 #33
Why are you stalking my post in the Hillary Group? misterhighwasted Mar 2016 #35
If you're such a big "critical thinker" then you'd know no one is "acting like a repub".. sounds to Cha Mar 2016 #40
Chris Matthews vs. Debbie Wasserman Schultz: "What's The Difference Between A Democrat & A Socialist Her Sister Mar 2016 #17
she was in tight spot Her Sister Mar 2016 #18
Correct. Sanders has a lawsuit pending against the DNC. SunSeeker Mar 2016 #21
Fun times! Her Sister Mar 2016 #23
The other problem is Sanders now claims to be a member of the Democratic Party. SunSeeker Mar 2016 #25
******** quickesst Mar 2016 #19
Lol. That's a spot on rendering of bernie..like Ebeneezer S misterhighwasted Mar 2016 #20
Thought it was pretty funny... quickesst Mar 2016 #36
Great cartoon Gothmog Mar 2016 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author RazBerryBeret Mar 2016 #26
wikipedia Her Sister Mar 2016 #27
I sure like my Democrat Candidate!! Her Sister Mar 2016 #28
K&R otohara Mar 2016 #29
FDR and JFK were liberals, neither wanted the government to Dawson Leery Mar 2016 #34
Things Bernie Bots are missing ladym55 Mar 2016 #37
The Kochs and Rove would use this against Sanders to great effect Gothmog Mar 2016 #38
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