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still_one

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37. The rules for New York are to allow DEMOCRATS to choose their nominee, instead of independents and
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 09:13 AM
Apr 2016

republicans, who never were part of the Democratic party, and change party affiliation, not because they want to be Democrats, but to screw with an opposing party's primary results.

This does not affect new registrations, but only existing ones.

Those voters who are currently registered to vote in New York, requires those registered voters to change their party enrollment prior to the registration deadline for the general election in November the year before the primary.

This is to discourage "party raiding," where activists from one party change affiliation en masse to screw with an opposing party's primary results.

In 2000 the Supreme Court of the United States struck down California's blanket primary in California Democratic Party v. Jones. Similar systems used by Washington and Alaska were also struck down in subsequent Supreme Court cases.

he United States Supreme Court held that California's blanket primary violates a political party's First Amendment freedom of association.

The key line in the decision being that, "A single election in which the party nominee is selected by nonparty members could be enough to destroy the party"

"In a 7-2 opinion delivered by Justice Antonin Scalia, the Court held that California's blanket primary violates a political party's First Amendment right of association. "Proposition 198 forces political parties to associate with—to have their nominees, and hence their positions, determined by—those who, at best, have refused to affiliate with the party, and, at worst, have expressly affiliated with a rival," wrote Justice Antonin Scalia for the majority. "A single election in which the party nominee is selected by nonparty members could be enough to destroy the party." Justice Scalia went on to state for the Court that Proposition 198 takes away a party's "basic function" to choose its own leaders and is functionally "both severe and unnecessary."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Democratic_Party_v._Jones

While a blanket primary is not the same as an open primary, the open primary still allows for "party raiding", which is why New York in its wisdom choose not only a closed primary, but also added this additional safeguard



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This was so predicted.. thank you, SaF! Cha Apr 2016 #1
Yep. I don't remember exactly who said this would happen... Stand and Fight Apr 2016 #5
I was among the many who saw this coming months ago. stopbush Apr 2016 #12
The 19th can't get here soon enough. Stand and Fight Apr 2016 #19
Boo hoo wysi Apr 2016 #2
Should I call 9-1-1 Treant Apr 2016 #4
I think someone might need the... wysi Apr 2016 #24
Bwuhaha, you beat me to it! nt IamMab Apr 2016 #47
Ha! Treant Apr 2016 #63
Call me crazy Treant Apr 2016 #3
I'm sure they're going to complain in all the big states. Stand and Fight Apr 2016 #6
Of Course They Will Treant Apr 2016 #8
Well, if people can't play by the rules... Stand and Fight Apr 2016 #20
Important stuff.. Cha Apr 2016 #29
More attempts for voter fraud, the others has to follow the rules but some thinks they are not Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #7
guess they need one of these. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2016 #9
And of course, it's only Sanders followers who are affected. stopbush Apr 2016 #10
BTW - I replied to a FB post that warned CA voters stopbush Apr 2016 #11
Kind of a wasted effort on their part anyway, since California's practically an open primary. NuclearDem Apr 2016 #14
Yeah. You have to be registered as "non-affiliated" to cross over stopbush Apr 2016 #16
These people... Some of the Sanders folks are nuttier than squirrel shit. n/t Stand and Fight Apr 2016 #21
Well.... Sanders has helped that process. LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #54
I've seen this claim, too ... NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #23
We discussed this FB scouring... wysi Apr 2016 #26
Yes. This is delusion on the Sarandon Syndrome level. stopbush Apr 2016 #28
Speaking of the Sarandon Syndrome.. Cha Apr 2016 #30
Yu-Gi-Oh! For President!! LuvLoogie Apr 2016 #77
Nance, since they spend HOURS on FB and the internet posting anti-Hillary crap KittyWampus Apr 2016 #38
They also put an immense amount of effort into changing results of caucuses after the fact lolly Apr 2016 #74
Classic projection from the side whose candidate spent something like $6 million on marketing online IamMab Apr 2016 #48
Time to buy stock in Reynolds Wrap wysi Apr 2016 #25
I sorry they are so ill informed. sheshe2 Apr 2016 #13
Do we all need to hold these people's hands or something? NuclearDem Apr 2016 #15
REAL Democracy means having someone hold your hand, never being responsible KittyWampus Apr 2016 #39
I had a conversation with a young person brer cat Apr 2016 #57
If an already registered voter changed their party affiliation after 10/9/2015.... Princess Turandot Apr 2016 #17
They can find their way to an overflow rally, but not to their Board of Elections website? I... Tarheel_Dem Apr 2016 #18
I think you answered your own question in your last question. n/t Stand and Fight Apr 2016 #22
Maybe someone should have pointed this out to them during giftedgirl77 Apr 2016 #34
One of the things I love about Clinton is that she generally has some kind of connection to local... IamMab Apr 2016 #52
Lol, it's called networking. Most professionals understand the importance giftedgirl77 Apr 2016 #61
And both the Trump & BS campaigns are getting screwed in the delegate race. Hillary's team.... Tarheel_Dem Apr 2016 #64
Math us hard for people that lack analytical skills which giftedgirl77 Apr 2016 #68
It's beyond anything I've ever witnessed... Satch59 Apr 2016 #27
It is a broken record.. nothing new EVER! Cha Apr 2016 #31
Sorry guys... jmowreader Apr 2016 #32
+ a million! eom BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #33
Bernie is going to encourage chaos again Trenzalore Apr 2016 #35
I think you boiled the whole thread down to its essence in one sentence. KittyWampus Apr 2016 #40
Agreed. It will be AZ again, where long lines were caused stopbush Apr 2016 #50
You are so right! workinclasszero Apr 2016 #66
Agree SharonClark Apr 2016 #71
He will need to raise money after NY Trenzalore Apr 2016 #73
Is insulting voters a productive way to gain votes? stone space Apr 2016 #36
I want Democrats to select their parties nominee, thank-you. All they had to do was still_one Apr 2016 #41
Sorry...didn't notice which group I was posting in. stone space Apr 2016 #45
As far as I am concerned, the view you brought up isn't an issue, and you are probably right, the OP still_one Apr 2016 #51
The rules for New York are to allow DEMOCRATS to choose their nominee, instead of independents and still_one Apr 2016 #37
So good! Her Sister Apr 2016 #42
kick & rec!!!!!!!! still_one Apr 2016 #44
Of course they are mcar Apr 2016 #43
LOL SharonClark Apr 2016 #70
I think a better organized campaign will make a better presidency GusBob Apr 2016 #46
The drumbeat around this is going to get louder. Kang Colby Apr 2016 #49
Same old shit liberal N proud Apr 2016 #53
This prompted me to recheck DemonGoddess Apr 2016 #55
Pity - ignorance is bliss, until you realize you blew your chance of voting in the primary. George II Apr 2016 #56
The biggest reason........ignorance. Historic NY Apr 2016 #58
What a pity. NurseJackie Apr 2016 #59
Oh boo fucking hoo. Loki Apr 2016 #60
Exactly! DemonGoddess Apr 2016 #62
Bernie camp only reads headlines riversedge Apr 2016 #65
That was painfully obvious when they took a headline as something Hillary said. liberal N proud Apr 2016 #67
This is so hard for me to understand. katmille Apr 2016 #69
Sanders supporters think the voting is most likes on Instagram. LannyDeVaney Apr 2016 #72
k&r DesertRat Apr 2016 #75
They talk about this revolution thing nini Apr 2016 #76
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