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jmowreader

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32. There's also this part
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:54 AM
Apr 2016
13. Continuing our reflections, and referring also to what has been said in the Encyclicals Laborem exercens and Sollicitudo rei socialis, we have to add that the fundamental error of socialism is anthropological in nature. Socialism considers the individual person simply as an element, a molecule within the social organism, so that the good of the individual is completely subordinated to the functioning of the socio-economic mechanism. Socialism likewise maintains that the good of the individual can be realized without reference to his free choice, to the unique and exclusive responsibility which he exercises in the face of good or evil. Man is thus reduced to a series of social relationships, and the concept of the person as the autonomous subject of moral decision disappears, the very subject whose decisions build the social order. From this mistaken conception of the person there arise both a distortion of law, which defines the sphere of the exercise of freedom, and an opposition to private property. A person who is deprived of something he can call "his own", and of the possibility of earning a living through his own initiative, comes to depend on the social machine and on those who control it. This makes it much more difficult for him to recognize his dignity as a person, and hinders progress towards the building up of an authentic human community.


Just from skimming the thing, it looks like John Paul II was very much into "bridled capitalism" - both free-reign capitalism like the Republicans preach, and socialism like Bernie Sanders wants, are both bad in his eyes.

Consider the source and you'll see why this paper is so down on socialism: the Pope who wrote it came from a Warsaw Pact country.

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Fail! Her Sister Apr 2016 #1
Will not deter Sanders from repeating the lie liberal N proud Apr 2016 #2
Argh! Her Sister Apr 2016 #3
Ah yes ... BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #19
Monsignor needs to beef up on the meaning of "election" and "candidate" robbedvoter Apr 2016 #31
Enormous K & R. Thanks for posting. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #4
It's so damned OBVIOUS--but then again, it always WAS. MADem Apr 2016 #5
Yes, I actually saw that one BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #20
K&R! sheshe2 Apr 2016 #6
And Hillary didn't get invited at all. But considering the subject of the conference, it's not PatV Apr 2016 #7
Jeffrey Sachs a BS fan got BS an invite and BS said on the View when asked if he were going to Cha Apr 2016 #8
Clinton didn't ask to attend a seminar on Catholic theology. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #15
This is absolutely the point BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #21
If necessary, I think I can get her invited to something exciting. okasha Apr 2016 #24
lol!!! Her Sister Apr 2016 #33
I'd go to that! Especially if there is food! Lucinda Apr 2016 #49
Hillary did not ask to attend. Why bring her in unless it is only to smear her. Shame on you. riversedge Apr 2016 #27
I blame BS.. he never does his homework. Cha Apr 2016 #9
No, he really doesn't. Bleacher Creature Apr 2016 #16
It still has not dawned on his supporters what a stupid coment that was (by Bernie) riversedge Apr 2016 #28
K&R otohara Apr 2016 #10
HAH! DemonGoddess Apr 2016 #11
k&r DesertRat Apr 2016 #12
If he has an "interest in studying" Centesimus Annus... jmowreader Apr 2016 #13
just a part DemonGoddess Apr 2016 #30
There's also this part jmowreader Apr 2016 #32
Eventually the truth shall prevail Iliyah Apr 2016 #14
Sanders invited himself Gothmog Apr 2016 #17
Here's the important part: "Perhaps the others (candidates) would have been interested but... George II Apr 2016 #18
Ding ! Ding! Ding! Her Sister Apr 2016 #34
If Jeffrey Sachs is Bernie's hand-picked foreign policy advisor LisaM Apr 2016 #22
That any foreign policy "advisor" BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #23
I suspect that this will be okasha Apr 2016 #25
Not a good move overall, IMO. eom BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #26
Probably they wanted BS to look important with the Pope Her Sister Apr 2016 #35
Too clever for their own good, IMO. eom BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #36
I've been digging around on Jeffrey Sachs, and he's a strange character LisaM Apr 2016 #37
Thanks for the links, Lisa! BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #38
He seems to have a particular vendetta against Hillary and Paul Krugman. LisaM Apr 2016 #39
It gets even more interesting when the discussion BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #40
I know; at times it sounds like Opus Dei LisaM Apr 2016 #41
Thanks for all this info into Jeffrey Sachs Her Sister Apr 2016 #46
It also makes Bernie Sanders seem very, very naive. LisaM Apr 2016 #55
It should raise flags BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #59
Couldn't agree more. LAS14 Apr 2016 #51
And to discuss an encyclical that slams socialism. Koinos Apr 2016 #54
Skin deep perhaps. eom BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #58
No Matter. He won't even read the encyclical. Koinos Apr 2016 #60
So all the spin the BS'ers were pushing was false? Quelle Surprise!!!! Tarheel_Dem Apr 2016 #29
They called her a liar and other terrible names... ( Margaret Archer) fun n serious Apr 2016 #42
The response to Margaret Archer laid bare BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #43
They also fund raised on this issue fun n serious Apr 2016 #44
Shameless. BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #45
Yuck! Her Sister Apr 2016 #47
The agenda Her Sister Apr 2016 #48
Thanks for this, Her Sister! BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #50
and it looks like it was supposed to be a coffee break at that time! Her Sister Apr 2016 #52
I wonder whether he'll be BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #57
This person has some in depth analysis on the whole thing Her Sister Apr 2016 #53
Good find. BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #56
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