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Peace Patriot

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22. Oh, for Pete's sake! You, too? I know you are a Capriles supporter but...
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 11:25 PM
Mar 2013

...really, you aren't going to win with these "talking points" so why do you keep it up, slandering the next president of Venezuela as if Maduro mentioning his predecessor and mentor Chavez kills people, as if Maduro approves of murder, as if he is a murderer himself?

That is not only wrong and a lie, it is stupid campaigning. It's why you've been losing time and again. Why don't you devote some energy to new ideas and programs for Venezuela, instead of tearing down the most successful poverty-reduction government in the world, with mean and petty comments like this? You're wasting your brain on garbage--on cheap sloganeering, on repetitive, monotonous, boring negative "talking points" that aren't getting you or your candidate anywhere.

Something else you could do: Examine why Capriles lost the last election and is going to lose this one. My sense of it is that he is not genuine--he is a front man for the most fascist element in Venezuelan society, and for transglobal corporations and their U.S. government servants--and Venezuelan voters sensed that falseness, and felt that it was confirmed when the far right platform of part of his coalition came too light.

Why should they vote for someone whose agenda is to deconstruct the "New Deal" that they've voted for, time and again, by big majorities, for over a decade--or whom they believe has that agenda?

That's my feeling about it--but what is yours? Your time would be better spent figuring this out--why Capriles lost despite the lavish support of the Corporate Media and its non-stop, 14 year campaign against Chavez, and why he is going to lose again, despite the continued support of the Corporate Media and their new campaign against Maduro. Why don't the voters trust Capriles? Should the opposition re-think its platform and its relationship with the Venezuelan majority (like Republicans are having to do here) and develop new leadership that the majority can trust not to rob the poor of their gains?

You keep losing because you are NOT thinking--you are not analyzing; you are not learning lessons; you are relying on the Corporate Media which failed, time and again, to oust Chavez, and I think you have also fallen prey to the Corporate Media lie that the Bolivarian Revolution was all about Chavez. It was not. It was and is about the people of Venezuela--the voters, the grass roots activists, the community organizers, the poor who have food on the table, a real roof over their heads and health care for the first time in their lives, the parents of children with no hope of ever going to college now being able to go to college, the passionate believers in fairness--the People, who rated their country FIFTH IN THE WORLD in the Gallup Well-being poll, which measures individuals' current sense of well-being and future prospects. 5th the world!

You need to think about these things and stop riffing on Corporate Media and rightwing "talking points." It is a useless exercise. It has repeatedly failed. And it paints an inaccurate, and in some ways slanderous and vicious, picture of Venezuela and its people. You got a solution for street crime? Tell us about it--and better yet tell Venezuelans about it. Where are your constructive ideas?



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wilms: 2,244 people killied since Newtown under Barak Obama. Wilms Mar 2013 #1
thats just stupid since Venezuela doesn't even have a tenth of the population Bacchus4.0 Mar 2013 #2
Lol, the danger of blaming presidents for crime rates. You'd think they'd sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #3
the numbers under Rahm are terrible, he sucks Bacchus4.0 Mar 2013 #4
Crime has fallen over the past 20 years according to what we are told. sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #5
I'm curious naaman fletcher Mar 2013 #6
I have no knowledge as to why crime is so high but I will do some research sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #15
presidents are responsible for policies and Chavez failed miserably Bacchus4.0 Mar 2013 #7
Actually, most of Chavez's efforts on crime have been successful naaman fletcher Mar 2013 #8
Presidents are responsible for policies?? Really? I am told here constantly sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #9
I havent' seen anyone on this forum say that naaman fletcher Mar 2013 #10
Do you mean on the Latin America forum or DU? sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #11
LA forum naaman fletcher Mar 2013 #12
Obama has been driving the debate for 5 years Bacchus4.0 Mar 2013 #13
The HC Bill that put public funds in the hands of Private Corporations sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #14
I remember when you laughably compared executive powers to decrees. joshcryer Mar 2013 #21
I remember when you laughably denied that fact. The US President has more 'decree' sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #24
Wow, doubling down. joshcryer Mar 2013 #25
No matter how often you repeat this crap, Bacchus, Maduro is going to win! Peace Patriot Mar 2013 #16
The idiots have their charges against the Venezuelan government running in cycles. Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #18
Because he represents chavismo. joshcryer Mar 2013 #20
Chávez no ha muerto, el vive en la revolución! ˇHasta la victoria siempre! idwiyo Mar 2013 #17
Every time Maduro says Chavez' name, a Venezuelan dies. joshcryer Mar 2013 #19
Oh, for Pete's sake! You, too? I know you are a Capriles supporter but... Peace Patriot Mar 2013 #22
I have nothing in the game. joshcryer Mar 2013 #23
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