Latin America

joshcryer

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89. Both sides take swipes. Maduro is the leader of the chavistas though.

Sat Mar 30, 2013, 11:55 PM

Mar 2013

So he should be held to a higher standard, no?

So you think that it's OK for Maduro to be a bigot as long as you can find some tabloid-level nut in the opposition who is just as vile as he is? Is that what you're really arguing here?

Capriles has been nothing but a stand up guy. The worst he's called Maduro to my knowledge is a "kid." Really.

edit, btw, that article is rich when it says, "In any democratic country such a provocation would probably lead to legal action against the editor."

Yeah, such as Maduro being sanctioned for calling the opposition "fa**ots" or for the Venezuelan state radio website hosting a really vile piece of shit article entitled, "The Enemy is Zionism." I highly doubt the author of your link has even commented on those actions.

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Maduro calls Venezuela opposition "heirs of Hitler" [View all] Zorro Mar 2013 OP

We know they are heirs of El Caracazo massacre, ordered by their beloved Perez, Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #1

I am not surprised you would defend anti-Semitism Zorro Mar 2013 #2

I'm not surprised you defend phoney claims pulled outta asses in Washington's Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #3

So are you saying Maduro did not call the opposition "heirs of Hitler"? Zorro Mar 2013 #6

Your identification with Washington's bullies forces you to spin it that way. n/t Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #25

So are you saying Maduro did not call the opposition "heirs of Hitler"? Zorro Mar 2013 #27

Really? Because I've shown such anti-semitic traits, myself? Is that true? Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #32

Condoning Maduro's remarks Zorro Mar 2013 #129

You do know that Hitler's henchmen escaped BlueToTheBone Mar 2013 #154

Just to be clear, Maduro DID say it Marksman_91 Mar 2013 #13

The attempt to mangle it supports the filthy propaganda the US has been using Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #23

Don't bother. Pearls before swine... Though others might read it and think... There is always that. idwiyo Mar 2013 #36

I AM A NATIVE SPANISH SPEAKER. Did you even WATCH the video in the article? Marksman_91 Mar 2013 #52

Native English speakers hear, right-wingers, lie because they have no consciences. Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #59

Don't take it out on him so hard, Judi Zorro Mar 2013 #61

It has never stopped her... ocpagu Mar 2013 #70

She's clearly ill informed on this issue. joshcryer Mar 2013 #75

I speak spanish, and it is quite clear what he said. I posted a video in this thread that MADem Mar 2013 #114

I'm not an expatriate Marksman_91 Mar 2013 #93

January of 2006. ocpagu Mar 2013 #98

La Floresta? Lol. That's where my highschool was. Marksman_91 Mar 2013 #101

People are typically normal, regular folks. joshcryer Mar 2013 #104

I found the city wonderful. ocpagu Mar 2013 #116

Translation: "LALALALALALA! I can't hear you! I'm not listening!" Common Sense Party Mar 2013 #100

Interesting... ocpagu Mar 2013 #72

My point is a more believable comparison. Marksman_91 Mar 2013 #82

Did he call them heirs of hitler though? naaman fletcher Mar 2013 #145

It was a inflammatory, strong remark. ocpagu Mar 2013 #156

Ending $1.6 billion in subsidies is not the holocaust. joshcryer Mar 2013 #74

No way to move food to their stores, people to hospitals, to work, to school, Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #77

So, Venezuela as banana republic for Cuba is the solution? joshcryer Mar 2013 #86

Apparently you haven't spent enough time reading, too much time posturing. Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #108

Petrocaribe is not the San Jose Accord. joshcryer Mar 2013 #110

Succinctly said. +1000! nt MADem Mar 2013 #115

Would you care to explain how you reach these numbers? reorg Mar 2013 #119

Do the math. joshcryer Mar 2013 #121

I did the math, you provide misleading quotes reorg Mar 2013 #122

The FP article is behind a paywall. joshcryer Mar 2013 #123

So Venezuela has to take care of Cuba now as if they were some kind of son we owe everything to? Marksman_91 Mar 2013 #92

So why has Venezuela been involved in discounted oil trade throughout Central America Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #109

"Herederos de Hitler dirigen campaña en Venezuela" asegura Maduro MADem Mar 2013 #62

The term you're looking for is "Godwinning." Scootaloo Mar 2013 #118

Errrr, he is right... idwiyo Mar 2013 #4

How so? Zorro Mar 2013 #5

Its well outlined in post #1. Of shoe fits... idwiyo Mar 2013 #7

So... Zorro Mar 2013 #8

Here we go with anti-semitism... Just say it, you know you want to! idwiyo Mar 2013 #9

So... Zorro Mar 2013 #10

It's very stupid question. Doesn't deserve an answer. Next. idwiyo Mar 2013 #15

Well you're the one who asserted that Maduro was right Zorro Mar 2013 #17

Pick up an enemy, preferably foreigner. Accuse them of covertly controlling the state government, idwiyo Mar 2013 #19

No need to repeat your assertion Zorro Mar 2013 #20

.... idwiyo Mar 2013 #22

You should swing over to the Chavista treehouse Zorro Mar 2013 #24

Oh gosh, you are so adorable when you are pouting idwiyo Mar 2013 #26

Happy to hear you like it Zorro Mar 2013 #28

Awww, aren't you the cutest little squigly boo! idwiyo Mar 2013 #29

Well, let's see... Zorro Mar 2013 #31

COMMIE! And it's properly spelled DemoncRAT, in RW land. Don't they teach you anything? idwiyo Mar 2013 #34

And yet you still won't say you're a Democrat Zorro Mar 2013 #35

I am British and I already said I am a commie. Why should I lie and say I am a Democrat? idwiyo Mar 2013 #37

My mistake Zorro Mar 2013 #41

Limey Wankers! You are getting better Squigly Boo, you adorable little you! :) idwiyo Mar 2013 #42

Ya know, some of the right-wing trolls just don't take to ya. Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #38

I honestly don't get it. My avatar, my sigline should be dead give away... And yet... idwiyo Mar 2013 #39

People post a lot of crap on their sig lines Zorro Mar 2013 #130

Still pouting, Squigly Boo? idwiyo Mar 2013 #131

What Obama administration Latin American policies do you support? Zorro Mar 2013 #45

And your point is? idwiyo Mar 2013 #48

Hmmmm Zorro Mar 2013 #49

You are pouting again, Squigly Boo! idwiyo Mar 2013 #51

Don't forget to show up drunk, and crazy, like the peculiar Senator Joe McCarthy, Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #30

What are you gibbering about? Zorro Mar 2013 #33

Awwwww, Googliy Bear pouting again... It's OK Squigly Boo, don't be sad. Am sure your Momma idwiyo Mar 2013 #40

You've reached the Chavista treehouse! Zorro Mar 2013 #44

AI program can't compute a real living breathing Commie and goes into infinite loop? idwiyo Mar 2013 #46

Just pointing out you have continually evaded backing up your assertion Zorro Mar 2013 #50

The remarks he didn't make, you mean? Though the fabricated ones really fit. idwiyo Mar 2013 #53

Well if you say so Zorro Mar 2013 #56

Yes, textbook RW tactic to fabricate "facts" and insist they are "truth". Glad you agree. idwiyo Mar 2013 #58

OK Alice time to leave Wonderland Zorro Mar 2013 #60

Awwww, Squigly Boo is pouting again, you adorable little you! idwiyo Mar 2013 #64

He did make them. See post 62. MADem Mar 2013 #117

Thank you for your opinion. I read through it and will save it in "other people' opinions..." folder idwiyo Mar 2013 #133

The key bit wasn't what I said--it's what's on the video. Start at the 2 minute mark MADem Mar 2013 #136

That wasn't what I am talking about. My reference was to your opinion about my posts. idwiyo Mar 2013 #141

When you insult people--as you do--why are you surprised when they return your attentions in kind? MADem Mar 2013 #142

You did prove my point. You know damn well what "wanker" also stands for. And yet you decided idwiyo Mar 2013 #144

You really want me to comment on the specific use of the term "wanker?" MADem Mar 2013 #151

Unfortunately one of the meanings of this slur is a homophobic one. Not a common meaning but idwiyo Mar 2013 #152

I've been hearing the word for years, and never once have I heard it used in that context. Not once. MADem Mar 2013 #153

Don't bother with these guys Marksman_91 Mar 2013 #54

He never said "Cuban doctors are being shipped to extermination camps". ocpagu Mar 2013 #55

Sounds as if Maduro has taken a page from the Goebbels playbook Zorro Mar 2013 #57

Googly Bear, you sound like someone who is very fond of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. idwiyo Mar 2013 #63

Yeah, except, you know, Capriles hasn't even had an ad air yet. joshcryer Mar 2013 #76

He hasn't had an ad air? Can you prove that? Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #79

The CNE has forbidden any ads from airing until April 2nd. joshcryer Mar 2013 #83

IF Venezuelans can't recall the ads they saw only a few months ago around the clock, Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #91

Capriles will get 6-7 million votes again. joshcryer Mar 2013 #94

You are lying again reorg Mar 2013 #120

I don't believe you. joshcryer Mar 2013 #124

it was an ad by Capriles' party reorg Mar 2013 #126

I remember when VTV showed his biggest rally in Caracas. joshcryer Mar 2013 #127

Here's an english transition from another site: naaman fletcher Mar 2013 #150

and here is a 7 minute video of the speech reorg Mar 2013 #157

That Noticiero Digital article plays into chavista narrative. joshcryer Mar 2013 #159

Thank you, you explained it much better than I would. The opposition rhetoric towards Cuba idwiyo Mar 2013 #169

The rhetoric coming from Capriles camp against Cuba is almost to boot the same rhetoric idwiyo Mar 2013 #170

Can you please cite Capriles or his lead campaigners using that language? joshcryer Mar 2013 #173

Quick, goal posts move! And here is an example of the rhetoric, from a supporter right here on DU: idwiyo Apr 2013 #185

Maduro, by being the chavista leader, set the goal. joshcryer Apr 2013 #186

How odd is that? Is there any way to explain what you mean? n/t Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #11

No need to confirm your lack of reading comprehension skills Zorro Mar 2013 #12

Message auto-removed bezrodny Mar 2013 #65

The blather you posted downstream Zorro Mar 2013 #68

Message auto-removed bezrodny Mar 2013 #69

Please elaborate Marksman_91 Mar 2013 #14

Start by reading about his political affiliations. Wiki is a good place to start for that one. idwiyo Mar 2013 #16

I'd like for YOU to make the comparisons, not tell someone to come up with their own conclusions Marksman_91 Mar 2013 #18

I highly doubt all 7 million were compared to Hitler. Just selected few at the head, it seems. idwiyo Mar 2013 #21

Everyone who voted for Capriles is "the opposition." joshcryer Mar 2013 #78

You're unaware of the great percentage of votes they openly recount unlike those here? Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #84

Nope. joshcryer Mar 2013 #88

Message auto-removed bezrodny Mar 2013 #43

Thank you for reminding me about WikiLeacks. And a great post, too. idwiyo Mar 2013 #47

Wow. Tremendous information. Thank you. n/t Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #66

Message auto-removed bezrodny Mar 2013 #67

Learned by some in public late in the game, they have crematoria, too: Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #71

Message auto-removed bezrodny Mar 2013 #80

So a lot of US Americans assumed this stuff ended when the CIA cocaine uncovered by Iran/Contra Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #111

What a nasty thread. joshcryer Mar 2013 #73

Message auto-removed bezrodny Mar 2013 #81

That the homophobic, antisemetic, bigot Maduro has support on DU? joshcryer Mar 2013 #85

Message auto-removed bezrodny Mar 2013 #95

You seemed concerned about the truth. joshcryer Mar 2013 #96

Message auto-removed bezrodny Mar 2013 #99

I don't do that. But it would certainly improve the stench. joshcryer Mar 2013 #102

Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #103

Maduro? joshcryer Mar 2013 #105

Message auto-removed bezrodny Mar 2013 #106

Why thank you. Welcome to DU. joshcryer Mar 2013 #107

It's a simple truth. Capriles would have been gone along with the other a-holes. n/t Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #112

That poster is no longer with us. joshcryer Mar 2013 #125

It's a shame you found a way to get him eliminated. He spoke the truth, had facts. Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #128

More importantly they pointed to a treasure trove of information that I forgot about. idwiyo Mar 2013 #132

By getting every one of Bezrodny's posts deleted, he was able to destroy evidence Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #134

Here are some links: idwiyo Mar 2013 #140

Thanks for sharing these links, idwiyo. Looking forward to seeing them. Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #146

Forgot to post the link below: idwiyo Mar 2013 #149

Thank you so much for the links! ocpagu Mar 2013 #155

"refused to take measures to stop acts of violence" joshcryer Mar 2013 #160

I didn't do anything. joshcryer Mar 2013 #158

At least under that name.... MADem Mar 2013 #143

Just stop with this nonsense of pretending that the opposition to PSUV has any moral ground... ocpagu Mar 2013 #87

Both sides take swipes. Maduro is the leader of the chavistas though. joshcryer Mar 2013 #89

Message auto-removed bezrodny Mar 2013 #90

So a few columnists compare Chávez and his government to Hitler and Nazis Marksman_91 Mar 2013 #97

Glad to see the article mentioned the fact that other Venezuelan Presidents actually did block Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #113

It's a shame a really great new poster was able to get banned by just one "DU'er" here last night, Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #135

Oh stop whining Zorro Mar 2013 #137

You confuse letting DU'ers know what happened with whining. Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #138

Cheap. Shabby. Dirty. Zorro Mar 2013 #164

It's really a pity ocpagu Mar 2013 #139

This is not new--it happens all the time. MADem Mar 2013 #147

It's actually a shame "auto remove" exists. joshcryer Mar 2013 #163

I think the admins still have access to those offensive comments. MADem Mar 2013 #168

idwiyo posted in Ask the Admins. joshcryer Mar 2013 #174

Would depend on who was on the MIR Team. As we know, right-wingers are NOT welcome Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #175

MIRT members are stand up members of the DU community. joshcryer Mar 2013 #179

Who did it? naaman fletcher Mar 2013 #148

She accused me in posts #128 and #134. joshcryer Mar 2013 #162

I missed the posts naaman fletcher Mar 2013 #165

This thread is what did them in: joshcryer Mar 2013 #172

He got himself blocked from the thread by a jury. joshcryer Mar 2013 #161

Whom do you imagine you are fooling? Who else would gain from it? Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #166

Someone needs a Time Out Zorro Mar 2013 #167

None of my posts in this thread are hidden. joshcryer Mar 2013 #171

It was a shock to everyone who saw someone got him zapped, as we had read his posts. Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #176

Why do you think naaman fletcher Mar 2013 #177

That is simply untrue. No hidden post if he was civil. joshcryer Mar 2013 #178

I really don't remember seeing any toxic language or uncivic behavior by the poster. ocpagu Apr 2013 #181

You reviewed civilized answers and concluded that? joshcryer Apr 2013 #182

I was hoping someone would mention that. You don't have to know exactly what was said Judi Lynn Apr 2013 #183

From the way you tell it naaman fletcher Apr 2013 #188

Since the poster who got him removed fixed it so ALL his words were deleted, Judi Lynn Apr 2013 #184

Judi, if you simply cannot stand this "right-wing" behavior of banning users for being offensive... Marksman_91 Apr 2013 #187

I agree with your remarks. The poster is routinely rude, and name calls. MADem Apr 2013 #189

Kick. n/t Judi Lynn Apr 2013 #180