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MADem

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23. So, you're saying USAID conspired with Raul Castro to install this dissident blogger in
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 01:27 AM
Apr 2013

Cuba, by sending her off to Switzerland for several years, then sending her back home to ... write a blog and get harassed routinely?

Or are you just saying that both agencies are covertly supporting her, one hand unknowingly washing the other?

Seems like a lot of intrigue. A lot of work, too, if that's the case. Why not just let her blog away, and shake an occasional fist at her, rather than beating her up, screwing with her husband, playing the "held without charges" game (see the article where that is discussed upthread) and in general, just being a jerk?

Plus, while Raul seems to be loosening up in preparation for bowing off the stage, it could hardly be said that he's been at all consistent when it comes to his treatment of dissidents. He's more of a one step forward/two steps back type. It's all fits and starts. I honestly think his biggest headache is how he's going to keep the lights on and the buses running in the years ahead. The little Doctors For Oil arrangement with VZ might not last forever, and most of his other friends have cash flow issues.

He needs to rapproach with USA, but there's a devil in those details that is stopping that--not sure what it is, but every president since Carter has made some kind of noise about closer ties while running as a candidate, and then it seems like they get into the Oval Office, have a look at a TS/SCI NOFORN folder or something, and then say "Fuck that shit." It's the oddest thing. The campaign rhetoric NEVER matches the post-election actions. They do stupid stuff (here's more food, here's some humanitarian aid, your relatives can visit more...) but they don't do the Big Kahuna Reach Out that they almost all talked about when they were young, dumb and innocent.

I'm not going to play the conspiracy theory game, because I have no idea, but it just seems damned strange to me that we can rapproach with China, with the former USSR, with frigging Vietnam after fifty eight thousand of our children died foolishly in the heat and mud...but we can't "get over" Cuba and a Bay of Pigs and Missile Crisis that is over a half century old? It just doesn't pass my smell test that they remain "Unforgiven." They have to have done something....well, unforgiveable....? And I'm guessing--not with any knowledge, mind you--just speculating--that we'll never normalize with Cuba so long as Fidel lives--he's the guy they're pissed off at. He's the Unforgiven One--that's how it seems to me. And he's no spring chicken, but I do think he is a tough old bird--he could live for another decade with good care, good nutrition, taking it easy and not trying to do too much, if he doesn't have any more major issues like that last round of butchered operations, and he doesn't fall and break anything.

I admit, my curiosity about what that's all about has remained unabated down through the years. I know Cubans who migrated to PR fifty years ago, and they're surprised, too, that it is still an unresolved thing all these decades later. Their kids don't identify as Cuban, they call themselves Puerto Ricans, they've married Puerto Ricans, and the only time they hear the "Cuban thing" is when they get ribbed for being high-handed or aggressively ambitious, or something like that--but it's more of a joke (sometimes meanspirited, other times not) than something that they relate to day-to-day. They wonder if it's down to November 22 63, and I have to wonder that, too...?

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Life's too short dipsydoodle Apr 2013 #1
Its interesting. After hearing her in several interviews ... Mika Apr 2013 #2
Nothing would surprise me naaman fletcher Apr 2013 #6
Raul is a smooth customer. Mika Apr 2013 #9
Ah naaman fletcher Apr 2013 #11
They arrested her .... why, then? MADem Apr 2013 #12
"Arrested" (like Gorki, as in: not arrested) and had to pay a fine for using hotel WiFi illegally. Mika Apr 2013 #15
No, I am not talking about that. She was also arrested and beaten enroute to a protest, MADem Apr 2013 #18
Not true, her latest detention was in a cell. joshcryer Apr 2013 #38
She's been saying this stuff for years. joshcryer Apr 2013 #37
Who pays her? You're saying the Columbia School of Journalism has been 'duped?' MADem Apr 2013 #3
USAID dipsydoodle Apr 2013 #4
So PBS got scammed? nt MADem Apr 2013 #8
Here ... Mika Apr 2013 #5
Many questions--not many answers...and it sounds like she tailors her responses to suit her MADem Apr 2013 #7
Unless that mentor is ... Mika Apr 2013 #10
Why would the government give her shit and arrest her x2, then? MADem Apr 2013 #13
Not when one thinks like an American. Mika Apr 2013 #16
No--I am talking about the kidnapping/beating in 09 and the arrest/detention last year. MADem Apr 2013 #19
1st, we have no idea who "kidnapped" and released her. Mika Apr 2013 #20
Someone beat her up but good. If she was going to fake bruises, she would have made them more MADem Apr 2013 #21
Consider that their interests are mutual. Mika Apr 2013 #22
So, you're saying USAID conspired with Raul Castro to install this dissident blogger in MADem Apr 2013 #23
Only the logic of campaign money and maintaining power is at play. Mika Apr 2013 #24
USAID has an interest in maintaining the status quo? MADem Apr 2013 #25
The entities that you mention who would be harmed by normalization ... Mika Apr 2013 #29
Bottom line, though, no matter how nicely Cuba trades with others, they are broke. MADem Apr 2013 #30
Sorta like the Walmart model. Mika Apr 2013 #31
Well, Cuba isn't Costco, though I sort of take your point. MADem Apr 2013 #32
My point was that Walmart doesn't have an inordinate focus on the bottom line. Mika Apr 2013 #33
Well, there's "immediate" bottom line (profits above all else) and there's MADem Apr 2013 #34
That doesn't seem to apply to sociopathic owners like Walmarts. Mika Apr 2013 #35
I agree with the analysis about the sanctions. joshcryer Apr 2013 #40
The best thing to happen for Ileana Ros & the Blowhard bros is Castro. Mika Apr 2013 #41
Unfortunately for them anti-embargo is on the rise. joshcryer Apr 2013 #42
Remember the New Jersey "exile"-derived politicians have their anti-Cuba mob to draw from, also. Judi Lynn Apr 2013 #43
Hmm dipsydoodle Apr 2013 #14
Can hardly wait for Raul to unfurl that flag that Bill Nelson gave Yoani. Mika Apr 2013 #17
One suspects she may just forget that flag in her hotel room! flamingdem Apr 2013 #26
She has answered these questions. Intermediaries. joshcryer Apr 2013 #39
More conspiracy fuel for the fire Yoani lives in an apartment flamingdem Apr 2013 #27
She has a "condescending" criticism for the Cuban government. ocpagu Apr 2013 #28
I love that Beyonce and Jay Z are visiting Havana and it's the new Cuba story flamingdem Apr 2013 #36
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