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ChangoLoa

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39. Sure. From now on and for decades, any "opponent" will be declared "a crook, a criminal
Mon Mar 5, 2012, 10:26 AM
Mar 2012

Last edited Mon Mar 5, 2012, 12:19 PM - Edit history (1)

a psychopath and a thieve".

I see the idea you have made yourself of our country is quite far from the truth. Where did you get so much surety about your knowledge concerning our people, culture and history? Which book did you read?

I'll share one fact with you: the international oil companies have been in conflict with Venezuela for the last 4 decades, discussing the value of their capital since it was expropriated and the entire sector nationalized in.... 1975. After being completely excluded from the local oil industry for 18 years, they benefited from the reopening of the sector to private capital in the 90's. But later on, with Chavez, those companies just kept gaining importance. In 1998, their production amounted for less than 10% of the total. Nowadays, they're extracting almost 1/3 of our oil. So even if their average tax rate was increased by the govt, they're eating a bigger part of the Venezuelan oil pie today than 13 years ago. The fact that they're Russian or Chinese changes nothing to that reality.

On the other hand, I consider this govt has formulated a good policy concerning the diversification of our clients, since we were in a situation of quasi-monopsone vis-à-vis the US before Chavez.

Unfortunately and despite clamorous plans of expansion for our production, our oil industry has had a reemarkably mediocre performance in the last 13 years. We're 5 million more Venezuelans than in 1999, while the country produces/exports 500,000/700,000 less barrels per day. If the oil prices were the same they were in 1999, we'd be completely broke.

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Chavez will undergo a new operation (Spanish - chavista state media) Bacchus4.0 Feb 2012 #1
Why didn't you ever chew the curtains over Paraguay's Lugo going to Brazil for treatment? n/t Judi Lynn Feb 2012 #2
When you can't attack the message COLGATE4 Feb 2012 #3
because Chavez is concealing his medical issues by going to Cuba Bacchus4.0 Feb 2012 #4
That is his right to privacy, it's unsual for a President to do that... joshcryer Feb 2012 #5
Making your announcements on your schedule and not the opposition's EFerrari Feb 2012 #11
lying is not concealing??? Bacchus4.0 Feb 2012 #16
Dirty war by scum txlibdem Feb 2012 #6
Twitter rumors that proved half correct = dirty war joshcryer Feb 2012 #7
"Twitter rumors" = your anti-Chavez posts txlibdem Feb 2012 #10
Can you post something substantiative, other than personal attacks? joshcryer Feb 2012 #12
You've never posted anything substantive in your anti-Chavez rantings txlibdem Feb 2012 #13
I find Josh's posts to be cogent and sober Zorro Feb 2012 #14
"I find Josh's posts to be cogent and sober" txlibdem Feb 2012 #19
I am laughing as well naaman fletcher Feb 2012 #20
"clearly shows you (txlibdem) posting useful information" txlibdem Feb 2012 #21
I was kidding. naaman fletcher Feb 2012 #28
Keep chortling, grasshopper Zorro Feb 2012 #25
You are humorous txlibdem Feb 2012 #29
That's a rather bold claim, I don't say anything I can't back up. joshcryer Feb 2012 #15
The rumors didn't come from the opposition. nt ChangoLoa Feb 2012 #22
The post you are responding to said nothing about rumors txlibdem Feb 2012 #24
Yes, you clarified that they were my "anti-Chavez posts." Despite that I posted a pro-Chavez... joshcryer Feb 2012 #26
You're aces, kid, you're a prince. ChangoLoa Feb 2012 #30
I care about freedom and justice for ALL the Venezuelan people txlibdem Mar 2012 #32
What, you don't know about Holden? nt. ChangoLoa Mar 2012 #33
You might as well have just wrote "nt." txlibdem Mar 2012 #34
If you REALLY cared about freedom and justice for ALL the Venezuelan people Zorro Mar 2012 #35
As opposed to the excesses of txlibdem Mar 2012 #36
Your response belies your assertion that you care about freedom and justice for ALL Venezuelans Zorro Mar 2012 #37
Awwww. The poor thieves who stole land from peasants at the barrel of a gun txlibdem Mar 2012 #38
Sure. From now on and for decades, any "opponent" will be declared "a crook, a criminal ChangoLoa Mar 2012 #39
It's really not necessary for you to continue demonstrating your naiveté Zorro Mar 2012 #40
But he did, in fact, secretly fly to Cuba. naaman fletcher Feb 2012 #8
yeah, I am confused. there is a denial and then subsequently an admission n/t Bacchus4.0 Feb 2012 #9
Does "squash" mean "confirm"? ChangoLoa Feb 2012 #17
no, it means to deny the rumor in this context. but the "rumor" has been confirmed Bacchus4.0 Feb 2012 #18
Right. The "rumor" started with this journalist, Bocaranda ChangoLoa Feb 2012 #23
Here is the storified twitter dialog that caused the explosion: joshcryer Feb 2012 #27
Bocaranda is the guy who announced Chavez had cancer 9 months ago ChangoLoa Feb 2012 #31
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