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In reply to the discussion: Leaked phone calls: Capriles just wanted to make a scandal [View all]joshcryer
(62,536 posts)And it's mainly due to things like dismissing things like recounts off hand. When the left wanted a recount in Mexico in 2006 the margin of victory for the right winger was larger than Maduro's in Venezuela. Chavez called for a full recount, twice. The US accepted the right wing victor off the bat.
It seems more that people are doing the opposite of what the US says, as opposed to thinking rationally about a given situation and understanding the facts.
The image you post of the tyranny at the FL elections only underscores the point. The allegation by the opposition is that observers were forcefully removed from polling stations representing 700k votes. That is a very big allegation if true. If the opposition can document it I see no rational reason to dismiss it off hand as you are doing here. Even if you did perceive them as right wing. Bush beat Kerry by 2 points. A much wider margin than Maduro did Capriles. I still wanted the Ohio fraud allegations investigated. If the margin was as close as Maduro v. Capriles I would've been pissed off if Kerry didn't fight for the Ohio vote.
Generally I don't think of progressives as people who crush people through violent suppression and intimidation tactics. And as far as I see Maduro is the one who banned the protests, Capriles is the one who called them off and repeatedly calls for no violence. Maduro is the one saying he'll use a "firm hand" and that he'll "radicalize" the 51%. Capriles is the one who calls for pot banging and peaceful redress. Maduro's people are the ones who unilaterally say, without even getting a formal request, that they won't even consider said requests (so the investigations I mentioned? They already said, without seeing one piece of paper in writing, that they won't do anything about it; just like Katherine Harris about the FL recount).
I'm going to get bored of this soon but I have a feeling that the good always beat out the bad, and in the end the homophobic bigot Maduro is going to have a serious karma withdrawal.