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Peace Patriot

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15. I think that the complete absence of voting/polling evidence on "the islanders' wishes"...
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 11:53 AM
Mar 2012

...is very suspicious. Not to mention how England acquired these islands and what their interest is now (oil, military outpost).

Does the lack of inhabitants, historically, on some of the Channel Islands off California's coast, mean that, Japan, say, or China, could have claimed them?

It's fundamental to a country's security to control its off-shore islands, inhabited or not inhabited. And the Falklands were, indeed, inhabited by Argentinians (though apparently not by pre-European indigenous). The British Navy drove them out.

England has a dubious claim and they have NEVER ASKED the people of the Falklands what their wishes are, as far as I know. All decisions have been made in London, by Crown or Parliament--and by gunboat.

We only hear one side of this from the Corporate Press. It may be that Falklanders have been so controlled and propagandized and are so dependent on England that they feel they don't have a choice. Some may have a sort of "Stockholm Syndrome." Some may be like the "Orangemen" in Northern Island (a heritage as colonizers). Some may genuinely not want to be part of Argentina and South America and look across the length of the Atlantic, to England, for sustenance and culture (as portrayed by the Corporate Press and the corporate-dominated BBC). I don't really know. And we have been so lied to, on so many things, by the Corporate Press, that I DON'T TRUST their portrayals.

That's where I'm at, about this. And I tried to make that clear.

After losing the United States, the British have become more subtle in their colonial designs. Is that what this is--just another form of colonialism? Are there dissenters? Are there arguments against being a British colony? Do Falklanders really have a choice, given England's military domination and on-going expansion of their military in the Falklands? And when and where has that choice been expressed?

You tell me--since you defend England's "right" to the Falklands.

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Well now that Roger Waters has sharp_stick Feb 2012 #1
Should they be asked? ocpagu Mar 2012 #7
I guess that would depend on sharp_stick Mar 2012 #8
Can't we all just be comfortably numb and get along? Democrats_win Feb 2012 #2
They should be returned to the Penguins. Moonwalk Feb 2012 #3
Gawd - next thing you know, he'll be saying America and India deserve independence. leveymg Feb 2012 #4
also, Uruguay has to go back to either Brazil or Argentina MisterP Feb 2012 #5
What does he mean by return? naaman fletcher Feb 2012 #6
We Should Respect The Wishes Of The Falklanders Vogon_Glory Mar 2012 #9
Even in this heavily pro-British account of the history of the Falklands... Peace Patriot Mar 2012 #10
I diasgree naaman fletcher Mar 2012 #11
Agreed. n/t Vogon_Glory Mar 2012 #12
I suggest you look at a map. nt Peace Patriot Mar 2012 #13
What does that have to do with anything? naaman fletcher Mar 2012 #14
I think that the complete absence of voting/polling evidence on "the islanders' wishes"... Peace Patriot Mar 2012 #15
OK then, naaman fletcher Mar 2012 #16
The islanders won't even discuss the issue ikri Mar 2012 #17
So... ocpagu Mar 2012 #18
Very interesting, to say the least. Thanks for the UN list of Non-Self-Governing Territories n/t Judi Lynn Mar 2012 #19
I have an answer Bacchus4.0 Mar 2012 #20
Laughably naaman fletcher Mar 2012 #21
yeah, ikri did a great job summarizing Bacchus4.0 Mar 2012 #22
Or more likely, naaman fletcher Mar 2012 #23
Argentina is not facing any trouble right now. ocpagu Mar 2012 #24
Yes naaman fletcher Mar 2012 #25
Because they still have a state-appointed governor ikri Mar 2012 #26
Coincidentally I am listening to Pink Floyd flamingdem Mar 2012 #27
That was David Gilmour's son dipsydoodle Mar 2012 #28
I think it was Gilmour flamingdem Mar 2012 #29
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