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In reply to the discussion: Leaked phone calls: Capriles just wanted to make a scandal [View all]Starry Messenger
(32,380 posts)110. Unless I missed something (perfectly possible)
a hand recount was always impossible because the votes are computerized.
http://www.iol.co.za/news/world/determined-capriles-demands-recount-1.1502545#.UXDociuY6hY
Maduro, who had been declared the winner of the elections by 50.8 percent to 49 percent, said he would support totally and fully whatever the election council decides.
Earlier, Chief Justice Luisa Estela Morales said the opposition request for a recount was an impossibility, because Venezuela's computerised voting system does not allow for the kind of vote-by-vote recount demanded by Capriles.
I did check out the full report. It was overwhelmingly positive, imo. It highlighted the fact that Capriles and his camp were satisfied going in that things would be fair.
"Repeated calls by both candidates for citizens to vote, as well as extensive participation of political party representatives in both pre-election preparations and audits of the automated voting system programmed by the National Electoral Council (CNE), contributed to citizen confidence in the voting system. Even so, isolated claims of fraud surfaced after the vote. Nevertheless, the whole opposition leadership, including, most importantly, Capriles himself, unequivocally rejected those claims, stating that the
results reflected the will of the electorate."
"Security of the Voting Machines
In the most open process to date, according to opposition technical experts, political party and domestic observer technical experts participated in the 16 pre-election audits of the entire automated system and the postelection audit, including hardware and software as well as the fingerprint databases.
MUD experts who participated in the audits repeatedly stated they were confident about the security mechanisms and the secrecy of the vote."
"On the Campaign Trails
The campaign featured two candidates in structurally different positions. The striking contrasts between their campaign strategies were to be expected. The popular 57-year-old president-candidate was governing for the 13th year and seeking his third,
consecutive, six-year term after being diagnosed with an undisclosed form of cancer.14 In firm control of the state and riding a moderate economic recovery by the time the campaign began, Chávez campaigned as the embodiment of his movement and indeed the nation, using the saying, Chávez, heart of the fatherland.
Capriles, by contrast, was not very well-known around the whole country, as he was running for national office from a governors post. Moreover, he was a youthful 40-year-old from a well-heeled background with weak oratory skills and a campaign organization with resource limitations and internal tensions. He needed an effectively designed campaign strategy and a perfectly executed campaign trail performance to stand a chance. He achieved those objectives, but they were not enough.'"
http://www.cartercenter.org/resources/pdfs/news/peace_publications/election_reports/venezuela-2012-election-study-mission-final-rpt.pdf
Of course, the recall might be moot if Capriles doesn't resume his post as Governor tomorrow. He will simply be removed. It must be tough trying to perform the duties of office while running for higher office for most of the year. Edit to ask, did he win his own state this time for President? I haven't been able to find if this is so.
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" this is his own operation... to keep the interest of his voters" "he has to make a scandal"
Catherina
Apr 2013
#1
Proabably the same thing would have happened if Bush & Cheney had been arrested
Doctor_J
Apr 2013
#28
Who's going to apologize to her that her grandson was shot in the head for a "scandal"?
Catherina
Apr 2013
#8
It definitely seems that way. It has the unsettling feeling of a return to the old
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#72
Since Capriles seems to already know he has lost - what is the point of a recount?
djean111
Apr 2013
#12
They've been exposed, now watch the twisted, pretzel logic we will hear from the right wing
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#81
Thank you. I wonder if the poster themselves would like to translate, instead of hiding.
idwiyo
Apr 2013
#48
shit eater would be the literal translation but not the meaning of the expression itself n/t
Bacchus4.0
Apr 2013
#51
Bullshit. But it's clear you were looking in the mirror when you said it. n/t
Catherina
Apr 2013
#73
Excellent comment, Catherina. I am happy though to see Caprilles finally exposed for what he is.
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#82
I never asked you, but do you think fraud allegations should be looked at by CNE?
joshcryer
Apr 2013
#20
"Birther' leader Orly Taitz ordered by Supreme Court to pay $20,000 fine for 'frivolous' lawsuit"
Zorra
Apr 2013
#54
The fact is, most of us know that corporatists are always going to use any means possible
Zorra
Apr 2013
#63
Well, that's what happens when you ask me a question before I have coffee at 6 am.
Starry Messenger
Apr 2013
#100
We shouldn't be surprised. Capriles is basically a Ven version of the Koch brothers
Exultant Democracy
Apr 2013
#21
He may have learned a lot from his wife, Teresa, who inherited her former husbands Heinz Ketchup.
Judi Lynn
Apr 2013
#96
Kind of tired of the choice being presented as either Stalin or Hitler...
Spitfire of ATJ
Apr 2013
#61
Our MEDIA does that. To them it's all about the leader, not the cause....
Spitfire of ATJ
Apr 2013
#70
You know as well as I do most people in Central and South America don't participate...
Spitfire of ATJ
Apr 2013
#78
We're talking about an exposed 'fraud'. That fraud is committed by PEOPLE necessitates
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#85