Latin America

Catherina

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82. I'm laughing so hard it hurts lol

Sat Apr 20, 2013, 10:18 AM

Apr 2013

Thanks for posting those. I'm quite stunned. Agreeing or disagreeing with Morales is not the point. The point is remaining informed. Whether we like it or not, this was said (and not in a vacuum as anyone following Latin American news knows). When a foreign government informs us that they're examining expulsing what's left of our Embassy down there and expulsing an NGO that Wikileaks confirmed as not being on the up and up, since when don't Americans deserve to know?

I would think people would want to know and use this for some introspection to learn how to get along with our neighbors, with what our neighbors are now demanding- a little respect.

Since when do we flail about treating another nation's leader, especially its first indigenous President, as stupid because he shouldn't have taken exception to a phrase that has a lot of negative and ugly history behind it?

This story is only 2 days old and already there are over 586,000 google results for this incident, and none that I see are happy with it or defending it. Is it our intention to refuse to learn and continue to offend? I hope not.

Thank you for posting this here Sekhmets Daughter. I humbly and sincerely thank the jury and promise the famous jury #4 that I'll make an effort with spelling.

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Evo Morales responds to John Kerry: Never Again Will We Be Your Backyard [View all] Catherina Apr 2013 OP

That digusting expression should've died long ago dipsydoodle Apr 2013 #1

Except here it has no negative connotations - in fact it is saying we are close neighbors karynnj Apr 2013 #12

That depends on who's saying it. dipsydoodle Apr 2013 #16

If it is derogatory in their culture, we should not use it. ieoeja Apr 2013 #19

That is true - and Kerry should call to explain what he meant karynnj Apr 2013 #27

My point is that I do not think that is the most usual interpretation karynnj Apr 2013 #24

In that case, the one saying it is Kerry karynnj Apr 2013 #36

The term backyard implies ownership, and that is the problem. However, whether it is South America still_one Apr 2013 #18

It was not implying that at all to me karynnj Apr 2013 #23

understood, and I suspect that is not what Kerry meant, but that is the conotation today still_one Apr 2013 #26

"Our backyard" means we own it. "Backyard neighbor" means they own it and we're neighbors. SharonAnn Apr 2013 #33

Here, it is a joking way of saying we are physically close. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #38

In this case its demeaning dipsydoodle Apr 2013 #47

I don't agree with you. It is a cajoling remark, not an insult. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #48

"In our backyard," illustrated all these long years before Latin American unity started to develope, Judi Lynn Apr 2013 #50

sure limpyhobbler Apr 2013 #69

k&r for self-determination, and for the end of imperialism. n/t Laelth Apr 2013 #2

+++ whatyousaid Voice for Peace Apr 2013 #5

What you said! ReRe Apr 2013 #11

Yes, indeed! hifiguy Apr 2013 #34

K &R for the same reason...n/t zeemike Apr 2013 #49

A good documentary to watch is "Our Brand is Crisis" featuring James Carville... cascadiance Apr 2013 #3

Oh awesome! Thank you. I just found it on youtube too Catherina Apr 2013 #7

Evo SamKnause Apr 2013 #52

Very interesting...thanks for posting it. zeemike Apr 2013 #62

Found and saved for later. silverweb Apr 2013 #32

Good old Goni fled to his brand new home in Maryland, where he's happy as a clam. Judi Lynn Apr 2013 #74

More on US-protected killer President, Bolivia's Goni: Judi Lynn Apr 2013 #88

More about this brave indigenous Bolivian woman, Filomena Le�n: Judi Lynn Apr 2013 #89

Incredible documentary Catherina Apr 2013 #90

Thank you. Glad it helped a number of people here... It had helped me see the truth about Carville cascadiance Apr 2013 #96

I made an OP here (link) Catherina Apr 2013 #99

Sorry the joke was meant as more of a comment on how Carville and his wife were earlier perceived... cascadiance Apr 2013 #107

Good for Evo. ocpagu Apr 2013 #4

It was a shock to learn how far he actually is from what people expected. Judi Lynn Apr 2013 #44

Evo SamKnause Apr 2013 #6

+ byeya Apr 2013 #43

I think this is a good place to leave this: Maedhros Jul 2013 #116

I had hoped Kerry would be better than this Tempest Apr 2013 #8

Too bad you did not hear the full comment in context karynnj Apr 2013 #20

good for him. Deep13 Apr 2013 #9

Not to nitpick, but you claim whathehell Apr 2013 #14

Yeah they are. Deep13 Apr 2013 #45

Fail. whathehell Apr 2013 #64

"I'm sure Kerry did not believe he said anything offensive." Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #17

Um, only if John Kerry was even remotely like the fictional Archie Bunker, LOL whathehell Apr 2013 #65

Kerry is obviously just as clueless.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #66

Exaggerate much? whathehell Apr 2013 #76

I swear,....if you have to explain a joke. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #84

Nah..If you have to explain a joke, often it's either whathehell Apr 2013 #92

Or it's the room. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #93

Good try, bro, but in this case, whathehell Apr 2013 #94

That's what I get for being subtle. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #105

"Subtle"? whathehell Apr 2013 #110

Good for him...No nation should be the "backyard" of another. n/t whathehell Apr 2013 #10

John Kerry really stepped on his **** this week, bvar22 Apr 2013 #13

This is - at most - a problem in the translation and I suspect a call from the Secretary karynnj Apr 2013 #22

This is more than a mistake, bvar22 Apr 2013 #25

^THIS^ hifiguy Apr 2013 #39

What has John Kerry's position been? karynnj Apr 2013 #55

Go Evo! ReRe Apr 2013 #15

I've read it and you're correct. It's a life changing book. mountain grammy Apr 2013 #56

Honestly.... ReRe Apr 2013 #59

It's worth a try. mountain grammy Apr 2013 #60

after reading the book Confessions Of A Economic Hitman riverbendviewgal Apr 2013 #21

I would think that we could focus our energy on the positive, Cary Apr 2013 #28

Here's what Kerry said, in image form Catherina Apr 2013 #29

Only a jaudiced eye would read his comment as you did karynnj Apr 2013 #58

The comment is in black and white. Only a apologist or naive mind would read it the way you did Catherina Apr 2013 #67

Backyard versus Front Yard barrybar Apr 2013 #112

An excellent commentary Catherina Apr 2013 #113

Good one! Thanks. n/t Judi Lynn Apr 2013 #114

For cripes sake... gcomeau Apr 2013 #30

That is the way I always heard it as well karynnj Apr 2013 #57

Many posters in the group literally leap for joy at the opportunity to rub America's nose in shit. Flatulo Apr 2013 #68

This is an incredibly unbalanced ridiculous article karynnj Apr 2013 #31

Well... ocpagu Apr 2013 #40

That is again your speculation karynnj Apr 2013 #53

It's a question, above all. ocpagu Apr 2013 #54

Did you really type all of that with a straight face? Lol Catherina Apr 2013 #61

Thank you. whathehell Apr 2013 #77

Considering our history in LA -- Hell Hath No Fury Apr 2013 #35

Exactly right. They know exactly what "paying more attention to them" will do. Judi Lynn Apr 2013 #46

This is one of those infinitely revealing hifiguy Apr 2013 #37

Anyone unaware of this fact absolutely MUST start doing some crash research, and keep at it, Judi Lynn Apr 2013 #51

K&R Go Evo! idwiyo Apr 2013 #41

Evo should've said "We are your backyard. Wanna play?" SleeplessinSoCal Apr 2013 #42

Evo needs to go chew some coca leaves Zorro Apr 2013 #63

At least he didn't say Latin America is the USA's litterbox. nt limpyhobbler Apr 2013 #70

"What are we? Your trash dump?" "We may be ill-fed, ill-clothed..." (more details) Catherina Apr 2013 #71

A jury voted 6-0 to Leave it Alone Sekhmets Daughter Apr 2013 #72

No doubt Morales intends to immediately return every dollar in cash assistance the US has ever sent, Flatulo Apr 2013 #73

The US has done its major dealing with the racist, secessionist white supremicists in Santa Cruz, Judi Lynn Apr 2013 #75

So you're saying that Morales has never taken a cent from the US? Flatulo Apr 2013 #80

Thank you, Judi, for the info... ocpagu Apr 2013 #98

The US never gives "assistance" without expecting something in return. Sekhmets Daughter Apr 2013 #78

I guess my question is, has Morales taken even a nickel from the US? If not, great. If so, Flatulo Apr 2013 #79

It is a common misperception that the US is the most generous of nations... Sekhmets Daughter Apr 2013 #81

Hah, I wish them luck with the Chinese. If you think the Yanqis have screwed over our southern Flatulo Apr 2013 #87

I think you miss the point.... Sekhmets Daughter Apr 2013 #97

My point was that the Chinese will pursue their national interests more aggressively than the hated Flatulo Apr 2013 #101

Is this just wishful thinking... ocpagu Apr 2013 #103

Wishful thinking, as in I would do a happy dance if the Chinese screwed Bolivia? No, I have Flatulo Apr 2013 #111

Not that 150 million in 8 years is very much but that's interesting. Where did you find that? Catherina Apr 2013 #83

Wikipedia Flatulo Apr 2013 #85

Thanks but is there anything that shows where that $150 went, and how much of it went anywhere? Catherina Apr 2013 #91

I'm laughing so hard it hurts lol Catherina Apr 2013 #82

'Backyard' is a simple colloquialism. We used it all the time. I grew up in Mssachusetts, Flatulo Apr 2013 #86

I don't think your analogy works in this case Catherina Apr 2013 #95

I don't believe that Kerry meant to be insulting. Flatulo Apr 2013 #102

"Their job is pretty much to represent our interests" ocpagu Apr 2013 #104

Nice try. Flatulo Apr 2013 #106

You're missing the point. ocpagu Apr 2013 #108

Ok, I see. We're a capitalistic society, and we have an inbred fear of leftist governments. Flatulo Apr 2013 #109

Evo's got a chip on his shoulder Zorro Apr 2013 #100

Kick. n/t Judi Lynn May 2013 #115

Viva Evo Morales, and his hard work toward a much better world. He is respected, Judi Lynn Jul 2013 #117