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Peace Patriot

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9. That is a complete LIE!

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 02:45 PM

Apr 2013

Venezuela does NOT have a privatized system, with half the states in the U.S. UNABLE TO DO ANY AUDIT AT ALL, let alone a recount, and the other half doing only a miserably inadequate 1% audit, and all of it run on 'TRADE SECRET' code--code that the public is forbidden to review! Code that is largely (75%) OWNED AND CONTROLLED by ONE, PRIVATE, FAR RIGHTWING-CONNECTED corporation--ES&S, which bought out Diebold.

Venezuela uses OPEN SOURCE code--code that belongs TO THE PUBLIC and that anyone may review--and they do a whopping 53% to 55% audit right on election day----over five times the minimum audit needed to detect fraud in an electronic system--using a VERIFIED-BY-THE VOTER ballot for EVERY VOTE!

Jeez! This is Bushwhackism, this statement of yours. Turning the truth ON ITS HEAD.

WE are the one with the extremely riggable, privatized system. Venezuela is the one with the transparent, public system, with every possible safeguard against rigging, and which Jimmy Carter recently called "the best election system in the world"!

You are stating the REVERSE OF THE TRUTH. Take it back! I don't care how bitter you are that Capriles lost--take it back! Your credibility is on the line, joshcryer.

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Capriles still defiant on eve of Venezuela vote recount [View all] Catherina Apr 2013 OP

Yes, well, he should have been born under a Bush, then Demeter Apr 2013 #1

Meanwhile the rest of the world (US excluded) recognizes Maduro as legitimately elected. n/t Tempest Apr 2013 #2

If he dispatches his zombie storm troopers to lay waste to more medical units, Judi Lynn Apr 2013 #3

Venezuela vote recount bahrbearian Apr 2013 #4

An imperialist foreign policy means never having to say you're sorry Tempest Apr 2013 #5

Well, he's certainly blowing the carefully crafted image he tried to create isn't he? No surprise sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #6

Well... ocpagu Apr 2013 #7

He agreed to an audit. joshcryer Apr 2013 #8

That is a complete LIE! Peace Patriot Apr 2013 #9

Saying it is open source is a lie! Show me the source code. joshcryer Apr 2013 #10

Thanks for pointing this out, I've been meaning to get to it. naaman fletcher Apr 2013 #11

Smartmatic is a mulitmillion dollar corporation. joshcryer Apr 2013 #16

There was never much credibility to be restored reorg Apr 2013 #12

The assertion made by Josh Cryer naaman fletcher Apr 2013 #13

This poster makes "assertions" every day reorg Apr 2013 #14

That is simply not an independent audit. joshcryer Apr 2013 #15

"Capriles' problem in the OP" reorg Apr 2013 #17

Code "divided among the political parties and the CNE"! Peace Patriot Apr 2013 #18

I'm not sure that is right naaman fletcher Apr 2013 #19

"The CNE, however, owns the source code of all Smartmatic software they use." reorg Apr 2013 #20

huh? naaman fletcher Apr 2013 #21

I know you don't get it reorg Apr 2013 #22

It's not open source naaman fletcher Apr 2013 #23

it is open to examination by opposition representatives and technicians reorg Apr 2013 #26

I didn't say that you said that. naaman fletcher Apr 2013 #28

you know reorg Apr 2013 #30

You were wrong and put words in my mouth naaman fletcher Apr 2013 #33

you said reorg Apr 2013 #34

You are changing the subject naaman fletcher Apr 2013 #35

ridiculous reorg Apr 2013 #37

You are right, naaman fletcher Apr 2013 #38

Where is the source code? joshcryer Apr 2013 #27

"I agree that the opposition isn't talking about the source code" reorg Apr 2013 #31

Nope, he wants to check to see if the machines work. joshcryer Apr 2013 #36

LOL reorg Apr 2013 #40

Please provide a link to the code. joshcryer Apr 2013 #25

Wrong, the audit was to include ALL of that. joshcryer Apr 2013 #24

you can try and twist it as much as you want reorg Apr 2013 #29

Whatever was said before the formal request is irrelevant. joshcryer Apr 2013 #39

What's amusing, naaman fletcher Apr 2013 #41

Or maybe if you want to prove that the dead came up reorg Apr 2013 #42

Just release the data. joshcryer Apr 2013 #43

No one in the US should be questioning the election results in Venezuela. Benton D Struckcheon Apr 2013 #32