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17. "Capriles' problem in the OP"
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 04:23 AM
Apr 2013

has indeed nothing to do with the source code of the software used in the election and the tabulation of the votes.

Although he loudly demanded in front of TV cameras that all ballot boxes need to be opened and although he stated numerous times that every single ballot must be counted and checked against the electronic count (while making hand gestures indicating the process of hand-counting), he now completely dismisses this process, once his "recount" was granted by the CNE.

Instead, he now insists that all 15 million fingerprints and signatures need to be rechecked and re-verified. (Oh, and BTW, why are you not protesting this? What happened to your conspiracy theory about the secret archives with fingerprints and allocated votes?)

Next he will demand interviews with each invidivual voter to verify if they actually checked their receipts and really put them into the box themselves.


Regarding the problem that had been detected during previous audits of the election software, it only goes to show that audits took place and delivered results. It had nothing to do with the tabulation of the votes, as you very well know. Here is the comment about it from the EU observers in 2005:

The EU EOM was present at the audit session of 23 November and had the possibility to observe the events in its entirety. The possibility of endangerment of the secrecy of the vote was evaluated by EU EOM experts as remote. The breach of the secrecy of the vote could only be possible if the sequence of both the identification of the voters and the votes cast was reconstructed. This reconstruction would require access to three different dispersed sources of information by a qualified user. These sources are the VM memory, the SAVs memory and the entire encryption key code (divided among the political parties and the CNE) used in the system to protect the voting data. In addition to that, the EU EOM is of the opinion that this possibility was truly due to a mistake from the CNE and Smartmatic and not to a fraudulent attempt to reconstruct the voting sequence. (page 27)

Footnote: Smartmatic and CNE main developers were present during the audit and actually presenting the system. During the entire audit sessions, they did not appear to try to hide anything. Even when the analysis on the reconstruction of the voting sequence became deeper and deeper, CNE and Smartmatic and CNE staff remained open and very confident. When the bug was revealed they were obviously taken by surprise. They had no strategy to justify it and made no attempts to play down the issue.

http://eeas.europa.eu/eueom/pdf/missions/finalreportenversion.pdf

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Yes, well, he should have been born under a Bush, then Demeter Apr 2013 #1
Meanwhile the rest of the world (US excluded) recognizes Maduro as legitimately elected. n/t Tempest Apr 2013 #2
If he dispatches his zombie storm troopers to lay waste to more medical units, Judi Lynn Apr 2013 #3
Venezuela vote recount bahrbearian Apr 2013 #4
An imperialist foreign policy means never having to say you're sorry Tempest Apr 2013 #5
Well, he's certainly blowing the carefully crafted image he tried to create isn't he? No surprise sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #6
Well... ocpagu Apr 2013 #7
He agreed to an audit. joshcryer Apr 2013 #8
That is a complete LIE! Peace Patriot Apr 2013 #9
Saying it is open source is a lie! Show me the source code. joshcryer Apr 2013 #10
Thanks for pointing this out, I've been meaning to get to it. naaman fletcher Apr 2013 #11
Smartmatic is a mulitmillion dollar corporation. joshcryer Apr 2013 #16
There was never much credibility to be restored reorg Apr 2013 #12
The assertion made by Josh Cryer naaman fletcher Apr 2013 #13
This poster makes "assertions" every day reorg Apr 2013 #14
That is simply not an independent audit. joshcryer Apr 2013 #15
"Capriles' problem in the OP" reorg Apr 2013 #17
Code "divided among the political parties and the CNE"! Peace Patriot Apr 2013 #18
I'm not sure that is right naaman fletcher Apr 2013 #19
"The CNE, however, owns the source code of all Smartmatic software they use." reorg Apr 2013 #20
huh? naaman fletcher Apr 2013 #21
I know you don't get it reorg Apr 2013 #22
It's not open source naaman fletcher Apr 2013 #23
it is open to examination by opposition representatives and technicians reorg Apr 2013 #26
I didn't say that you said that. naaman fletcher Apr 2013 #28
you know reorg Apr 2013 #30
You were wrong and put words in my mouth naaman fletcher Apr 2013 #33
you said reorg Apr 2013 #34
You are changing the subject naaman fletcher Apr 2013 #35
ridiculous reorg Apr 2013 #37
You are right, naaman fletcher Apr 2013 #38
Where is the source code? joshcryer Apr 2013 #27
"I agree that the opposition isn't talking about the source code" reorg Apr 2013 #31
Nope, he wants to check to see if the machines work. joshcryer Apr 2013 #36
LOL reorg Apr 2013 #40
Please provide a link to the code. joshcryer Apr 2013 #25
Wrong, the audit was to include ALL of that. joshcryer Apr 2013 #24
you can try and twist it as much as you want reorg Apr 2013 #29
Whatever was said before the formal request is irrelevant. joshcryer Apr 2013 #39
What's amusing, naaman fletcher Apr 2013 #41
Or maybe if you want to prove that the dead came up reorg Apr 2013 #42
Just release the data. joshcryer Apr 2013 #43
No one in the US should be questioning the election results in Venezuela. Benton D Struckcheon Apr 2013 #32
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